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Re: [opensuse-project] IRC etiquette
- From: Francis Earl <francis.earl@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:48:20 -0700
- Message-id: <200806111548.20548.francis.earl@xxxxxxxxx>
I meant that it is not possible to _effectively_ require that people
maintain some (inherently subjective) standard of civility in a forum
that is open to all and which attracts hundreds or thousands of
I believe it's possible, Ubuntu is already at that kind of level, and
certainly is managing it.
Not true. Not everyone deserves respect. It's reasonable to expect a
minimal degree of respect from someone you don't know as a kind of
default, but over time, an individual either earns respect by their
conduct or does not.
You should respect anyone that contributes something to the project, no matter
how small it may be. That should demand respect from others, if nothing else.
Wanting to see OpenSUSE do better is another good reason to respect everyone,
they have the same overall goal as you.
Can you support this claim? It seems foolish to me. I would rather be
chastised by someone who knows what they're talking about if I ask
questions stupidly than I would hang around with a bunch of people who
won't call a spade a spade.
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7543606709.html will have to do, as I can't
find Scott James Remnants blog on the topic... it links to Matthew Garretts
It lists several situations where bickering and general lack of respect caused
friction, and has a few examples of prominent developers going elsewhere
(Scott for instance wrote dpkg, so he was a pretty big deal to Debian).
There are lots of user blogs out there too, but those aren't as important as
this I think.
But now you're back to talking about principals, not the general user
community, which is why I asked you if any openSUSE project participant
had offended you.
3-4 of the ops in #opensuse over the course of years, I rarely stick around
because I get sick of their attitudes. I'd rather not make this a personal
discussion though, it will go no where good if that occurs.
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