Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-project (61 mails)

["Benji Weber" <b.weber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 18/01/2008, Martin Lasarsch <mlasars@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree with Steve: put it into the Guiding Principles, so we have _one_
> document to sign/follow/respect/whatever. I have no problem to make a subpage
> in the wiki with only these "rules", but not splitted from the GP. Even a
> page with the original part you posted with more explanation what this means
> is fine with me.

Adding it to the guiding principles would require everyone to re-sign
them. I am also not sure there is any need to add to the guiding
principles, this code of conduct is almost as vague as the guiding
principles. It is not something that can be enforced, only a
guideline, we have lots of guidelines on the wiki already
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette for example.
So I'm not sure that adding a vague code of conduct will make any
difference to anything.

> I also agree with Martin's response: this is only one side of the problem. If
> you stay longer in the channel you will see that sometimes it's not that easy
> to stay calm. I can, most of the times, but i can understand others who
> can't. The kind of reaction is sometimes not appropriate, but thats how
> people tick - different. If you think that someone don't behave correctly,
> talk with them directly without having the "rules" in mind. I guess "these"
> people know the rules, like everybody have an idea how to behave, they just
> don't care that much.
>
> And no, i have no idea what to do if this is not working ...

We have a set of rules for IRC already http://suse-irc.org/rules.html
, and are open to having more people to help enforce them. Whenever we
have investigated public complaints about behaviour on IRC it has
turned out to be certain regulars rather than OPs who people have had
problems with.

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Benjamin Weber
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