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Re: [opensuse-project] Feedback for openSUSE 10.2 and preparing for 10.3
- From: Francis Giannaros <francisg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:43:54 +0000
- Message-id: <200701181144.01076.francisg@xxxxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 17:10, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> We've briefly discussed during the last IRC meeting about what went
> bad in 10.2 and how we can do this better for future products,
> especially 10.3. I'm mainly interested in process feedback - and not
> on feedback that package x is broken (unless that shows a process
> problem).
>
> So, let's discuss what we can do better for our next distro,
I mentioned some of these on IRC, but I'll mention them here too:
I'd really like to see Zypper become a really mature and efficient (+speedy)
app for the command line, and I know a lot of things for Zypper are in the
works, so let me mention some of them:
* Handling of local/remote RPMs (#230223)
* A little more caching, i.e. with searching (#213762)
* ...tied into, being speedy, which I think is really important. I acknowledge
I'll get bad flames for this ;-), but APT (and even Smart, too, even) is
super speedy, and it's a little off-putting that that an apt-get install
takes, quite literally, less than 10 seconds, but a zypper in something
(though it always delivers), takes over a minute with five sources because of
the parsing metadata.
And just wishes, such as:
* Nice and accessible command line interface+output; I think Smart does really
well in this regard. One example: show download rate (#227903)
* And a very idealistic: solve build dependencies (#169757)
* Full metalink support, especially for release time, and a metalink client
shipped with 10.3. This would include handling our own metalinks, which we
can make work with the torrent too.
* Minimal X onto one CD. I think it only requires like 4 packages from CD2.
This may be covered by Jaeger's "Making the basesystem smaller" thread on the
opensuse-factory list, which would be nice to see.
Kind thoughts,
--
Francis Giannaros
Web: http://francis.giannaros.org
IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net)
> We've briefly discussed during the last IRC meeting about what went
> bad in 10.2 and how we can do this better for future products,
> especially 10.3. I'm mainly interested in process feedback - and not
> on feedback that package x is broken (unless that shows a process
> problem).
>
> So, let's discuss what we can do better for our next distro,
I mentioned some of these on IRC, but I'll mention them here too:
I'd really like to see Zypper become a really mature and efficient (+speedy)
app for the command line, and I know a lot of things for Zypper are in the
works, so let me mention some of them:
* Handling of local/remote RPMs (#230223)
* A little more caching, i.e. with searching (#213762)
* ...tied into, being speedy, which I think is really important. I acknowledge
I'll get bad flames for this ;-), but APT (and even Smart, too, even) is
super speedy, and it's a little off-putting that that an apt-get install
takes, quite literally, less than 10 seconds, but a zypper in something
(though it always delivers), takes over a minute with five sources because of
the parsing metadata.
And just wishes, such as:
* Nice and accessible command line interface+output; I think Smart does really
well in this regard. One example: show download rate (#227903)
* And a very idealistic: solve build dependencies (#169757)
* Full metalink support, especially for release time, and a metalink client
shipped with 10.3. This would include handling our own metalinks, which we
can make work with the torrent too.
* Minimal X onto one CD. I think it only requires like 4 packages from CD2.
This may be covered by Jaeger's "Making the basesystem smaller" thread on the
opensuse-factory list, which would be nice to see.
Kind thoughts,
--
Francis Giannaros
Web: http://francis.giannaros.org
IRC: apokryphos (irc.freenode.net)
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