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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Default extensions for our implimentation.
- From: Andrew Wafaa <awafaa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 10:02:05 +0100
- Message-id: <1337677325.2568.28.camel@fveult01.forcev.net>
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
absolutely necessary. Alternative Status had a valid argument put
forward and the consensus was in its favour. As I don't use a desktop
any more only laptop I wasn't overly affected either way.
I would rather we didn't bundle extensions but rather make it CRYSTAL
CLEAR as to where to get them and what they do. Maybe a greeter style
item or something?
upstream as they are working on re-integrating shutdown (or did I get
suckered by a joke?)
accessible.
already viewed by many as an inaccesible distro, and we should be making
moves to be more accessible not the other way round.
one release? I'd rather it wasn't a default and we highlight its
potential usefulness.
already offers the functionality from its icon so why duplicate the
feature?
clutter things up?
miss it now. Again we shouldn't have it as a default but highlight it
for people should they wish to have it.
me :-)
Regards,
Andy
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Le lundi 21 mai 2012, à 14:40 -0700, Roger Luedecke a écrit :Personally I would rather we didn't ship any extensions unless
We included some extensions to fix some issues with Gnome. I wrote an
article on extensions, and would like to submit the listed extensions in
that article for consideration.
http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.com/2012/05/getting-most-of-your-gnome-shell-with.html
It would help to list them in the mail so we can easily argue
for/against each of them :-)
In general, the fact that extensions are easily installable means that
we really don't need most extensions by default. We only need them if
they really fix a major issue.
absolutely necessary. Alternative Status had a valid argument put
forward and the consensus was in its favour. As I don't use a desktop
any more only laptop I wasn't overly affected either way.
I would rather we didn't bundle extensions but rather make it CRYSTAL
CLEAR as to where to get them and what they do. Maybe a greeter style
item or something?
Here's my opinion on the extensions you propose (and it's just myI actually like the default behaviour.
opinion):
Alt-Tab switcher
=> it's a matter of taste. I'm perfectly happy with the new behavior,
for instance, since I got used to it.
Alternative Status MenuIf I'm not mistaken this extension will soon be made obsolete by
=> that's the one we ship by default, because it annoyed too many
people to not have the Reboot/Power Off items. Not sure it still
works, though, since I disable it. We might need to take the version
from extensions.gnome.org
upstream as they are working on re-integrating shutdown (or did I get
suckered by a joke?)
Network ConnectionsI don't see the need for this, I find network connections are easily
=> you can remove connections from the control center now, so the main
use case is less important. Also, I think it's confusing to have
both Network Connections and Network Settings in the menu by
default.
accessible.
Remove the Accessibility IconThis should most definitely NOT be enabled by default. openSUSE is
=> I don't think it's friendly to do this by default, as accessibility
user relies on this. But maybe we can ship the extension disabled by
default, given the number of people asking for this?
already viewed by many as an inaccesible distro, and we should be making
moves to be more accessible not the other way round.
Notifications (that's just chat notifications)This is potentially useful, but is it worth having something for just
=> No opinion, might be useful in the short term, but I think upstream
wants to fix the core issue another way for 3.6.
one release? I'd rather it wasn't a default and we highlight its
potential usefulness.
CalculatorNo need.
=> nice, but clearly not something we need by default :-)
Media Player IndicatorI really don't want to clutter things up, which IMHO this does. Banshee
=> with media keys, I've never felt the need for this. What is the
experience of others?
already offers the functionality from its icon so why duplicate the
feature?
Advanced SettingsI have only used gnome-tweak-tool once, after first install. Again why
=> the advanced settings are not used often enough to be in the menu by
default, imho.
clutter things up?
Places Status IndicatorPossibly useful, although I never used that feature before and don't
=> probably nice, but not something I'd use by default.
miss it now. Again we shouldn't have it as a default but highlight it
for people should they wish to have it.
For the record, I don't think we should ship so many extensions byI would rather we had no extensions shipped by default, but that's just
default. Having one or two is fine, but more might cause issues with
updates, if it happens we have to ship a newer gnome-shell for instance.
me :-)
Regards,
Andy
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