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Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!
- From: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:48:03 +0200
- Message-id: <200608231348.04001.visnov@xxxxxxx>
Dňa St 23. August 2006 12:51 Azerion napísal:
> Op woensdag 23 augustus 2006 00:43, schreef Steve Barnhart:
> >Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on
> >first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop
> >choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can
> >install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then
> >2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess
> >I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on.
>
> Just like the KDE is going to do
> (http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+4+Application+Cleanup).
> They are dumping/merging a lot of programs because they are 'the same'. But
> I know that the openSUSE-team wants to cut down de distribution to 3 cd's
> so I guess a lot of those double-packages will be dropped then.
>
> > and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The
> > organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab
> > is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category
> > and then 5 different web browsers! Basically
> > we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and
> > terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE).
> > Its ridiculous that when one selects
> > the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE
> > PLEASE Clean it up!
>
> I think a lot of this comes with the package-cleanup but I agree that 2nd
> lever menu's are too-much. On the other hand: if you have a lot of packages
> it will be nice to have then in 2nd level organized. Maybe an idea to ask
> the KDE/Gnome-team to implement an option for that or only 2nd-level when
> more then 2 of the same 2nd-level-category are installed..?
This is already implemented in KDE desktop (I think it's SUSE-specific patch).
Stano
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> Op woensdag 23 augustus 2006 00:43, schreef Steve Barnhart:
> >Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on
> >first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop
> >choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can
> >install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then
> >2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess
> >I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on.
>
> Just like the KDE is going to do
> (http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+4+Application+Cleanup).
> They are dumping/merging a lot of programs because they are 'the same'. But
> I know that the openSUSE-team wants to cut down de distribution to 3 cd's
> so I guess a lot of those double-packages will be dropped then.
>
> > and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The
> > organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab
> > is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category
> > and then 5 different web browsers! Basically
> > we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and
> > terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE).
> > Its ridiculous that when one selects
> > the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE
> > PLEASE Clean it up!
>
> I think a lot of this comes with the package-cleanup but I agree that 2nd
> lever menu's are too-much. On the other hand: if you have a lot of packages
> it will be nice to have then in 2nd level organized. Maybe an idea to ask
> the KDE/Gnome-team to implement an option for that or only 2nd-level when
> more then 2 of the same 2nd-level-category are installed..?
This is already implemented in KDE desktop (I think it's SUSE-specific patch).
Stano
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