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Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!
- From: Azerion <azerion@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:51:21 +0200
- Message-id: <200608231251.22852.azerion@xxxxxxxxx>
Op woensdag 23 augustus 2006 00:43, schreef Steve Barnhart:
>Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on
>first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop
>choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can
>install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then
>2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess
>I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on.
Just like the KDE is going to do
(http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+4+Application+Cleanup).
They are dumping/merging a lot of programs because they are 'the same'. But I
know that the openSUSE-team wants to cut down de distribution to 3 cd's so I
guess a lot of those double-packages will be dropped then.
> and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The
> organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab
> is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category
> and then 5 different web browsers! Basically
> we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and
> terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE).
> Its ridiculous that when one selects
> the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE
> PLEASE Clean it up!
I think a lot of this comes with the package-cleanup but I agree that 2nd
lever menu's are too-much. On the other hand: if you have a lot of packages
it will be nice to have then in 2nd level organized. Maybe an idea to ask the
KDE/Gnome-team to implement an option for that or only 2nd-level when more
then 2 of the same 2nd-level-category are installed..?
Azerion
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>Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on
>first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop
>choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can
>install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then
>2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess
>I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on.
Just like the KDE is going to do
(http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+4+Application+Cleanup).
They are dumping/merging a lot of programs because they are 'the same'. But I
know that the openSUSE-team wants to cut down de distribution to 3 cd's so I
guess a lot of those double-packages will be dropped then.
> and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The
> organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab
> is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category
> and then 5 different web browsers! Basically
> we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and
> terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE).
> Its ridiculous that when one selects
> the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE
> PLEASE Clean it up!
I think a lot of this comes with the package-cleanup but I agree that 2nd
lever menu's are too-much. On the other hand: if you have a lot of packages
it will be nice to have then in 2nd level organized. Maybe an idea to ask the
KDE/Gnome-team to implement an option for that or only 2nd-level when more
then 2 of the same 2nd-level-category are installed..?
Azerion
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