Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (599 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx>]

Christian Boltz <opensuse@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> [...]
>>http://programm.froscon.de/attachments/41-SuseFeatureManagement_Froscon.pdf#search=%22fate%20feature%20tracking%22
>
> Interesting presentation. At least I now know what that ominously FATE, 
> mentioned in bugzilla comments from time to time, is ;-)
>
>> And most internal stuff goes through FATE.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't want another tool/method for adding features, instead
>> just use one - and hope this works out for all of us.  
>
> As far as I can see from the presentation, chances for this are good ;-)
>
> Let me try to summarize the differences compared to bugzilla - I hope 
> this will help to understand the tool better: (please correct me if I'm 
> wrong on some points)
> - a request can have multiple categories; categories can be (in bugzilla 
>   terms) a "product" or a "component", maybe (?) also other usage is 
>   possible [1]
> - it's XML based internally, including XQuery etc. [2]
> - it supports rich text (HTML-like) in comments [3]
> - it's possible to compare multiple revisions of a request - this 
>   implies that the request text can be changed (instead of just adding 
>   comments as in bugzilla)
> - two web interfaces (one with full, one with restricted view) and KDE 
>   client available

Correct.

> In general, it looks like FATE mixes the best things of bugzilla and a 
> wiki - sounds promising. (Is there a demo installation somewhere to 
> test it?)

I don't know :-(

>> The question  is how to "open" FATE in such a way that all of us can 
>> use it, it was not designed for such a large group... 
>
> Where do you see a problem? Server load? Permission handling? ...?

Permission handling: We do not want our partners to see each others
request for our enterprise products - and you shouldn't either see
there's.  I guess that everything coming in through openSUSE can be
public.

> Maybe you can provide read-only access as a first step...

Yes, would be an option.  But it still means I need a way to flag
specific features as public.

>
> Regards,
>
> Christian Boltz
>
> [1] Sometimes this could be useful in bugzilla product / component 
>     also ;-)
>
> [2] There's no problem with this as long I don't have to write XSLT
>     files for it *g*
>     However, I'm not sure about the performance when compared with a
>     database.

It's fast enough.

> [3] not sure if I really need this ;-)

Andreas
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