On Thursday 01 March 2012 12.05:35 Thomas Schmidt wrote:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

Feedback appreciated :-)

Greetings

[1] https://trello.com/board/appstream/4f156e1c9ce0824a2e1b8831 [2] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream

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Hey Thomas, I found the mockup really readable once you are in the package, Now what is not shown it kate-addons etc, how this list will be handle. Cause most of the time you have a pattern to search so you want a result of kinda contains kate Then next point, if you change software.o.o, will be the including home supported? -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 1. März 2012, 12:05:35 schrieb Thomas Schmidt:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

Feedback appreciated :-)

What I really like to see is the OBS link back ... I think it is still usefull for users to be able to reach development area and esp. the changelog there. OBS is now also logging which bugs got fixed, might be also nice to have that in some "details" view. But that can also be done on the OBS page of course.

Greetings

[1] https://trello.com/board/appstream/4f156e1c9ce0824a2e1b8831 [2] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de

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On Mar 01, 12 12:05:35 +0100, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

Feedback appreciated :-)

The example search is 'kate'. I'd like to see at least that the highest available version number is mentioned somewhere in the results. It currently is home:rwooninck:UNSTABLE_KDE4 kate 4.8.41 Found with osc se -V kate Hiding home projects completly is a very bad thing IMO. Currently users get the false impression that the search results are exhaustive. We could add a link 'Find more...' or tell what the difference is, like e.g. 'Not signed-off by SUSE' and add a list. cheers, JW- -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 say #263A!__/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, J.Guild, F.Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg), Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany SuSE. Supporting Linux since 1992. ☺ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org

Am 01.03.12, 12:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Schmidt:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

Great and very much appreciated. Usability could really be improved.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We see almost non relevant search results and have often enough to page through for what we want. Most of this comes due to versions mixing in and due to different repositories offering the same package, of course with modifications. Your current design looks to clean that up.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

The page locks very clear, which appears nice. I like it. As said, during the search come currently many many results up. One thing I like in modern search forms for example in OBS or susestudio is the presentation during typing in the search letters. When typing in kate I would like to see Kate results first. If there is a package called kate with all lower letters then that of course on top. Packages like Kate-lang-de could follow later. It would be cool if the search form can make a difference between searched projects and theyr version number. So the search form (or page) lists real packages first, if the user found the correct one she/he can proceed to the right distribution and then go to whatever version is prefered. It looks as your design covers that allready. Then take it as a confirmation ;-) The "Go to OBS Project" link is missed. I can imagine that the following runs out of scope for your project, but it is highly related. The nice Direct Install button would look good above Ubuntu and Fedora packages. Without that convenient one click install mechanism most user run screaming to each respective distribution as they feel lost os like second class users compared to openSUSE/SUSE.

Feedback appreciated :-)

Thanks for working on that.

[1] https://trello.com/board/appstream/4f156e1c9ce0824a2e1b8831 [2] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream

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Hello Thomas Am 01.03.2012 12:05, schrieb Thomas Schmidt:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

Feedback appreciated :-)

"The openSUSE instance currently has over 30.000 users that are building almost 160.000 packages for 22 base distributions on 6 architectures." Source:Portal:Build Service As an user I would appreciate an additional functionality to search for applications via schemes. For examble: If I would look for an app for project management and don't know the name. So I would like to search for office applications and look if there is an app available. Is this idea discussed already? Best regards Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Schmidt wrote:

As part of the current boosters sprint[1] which aims at integrating the appstream[2] project into our distribution we would like to enhance the web view on our packages at software.o.o/search.

With the final target of an web-based appstore we began thinking of how to display a package (app) to the user. The challenge is to make available the matrix of different OS versions, repositories and package versions in a clear way while making it easy for the standard user to get the latest stable version for his OS without getting confused.

We already have a mockup available: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/software.o.o/package-view.png

Feedback appreciated :-)

Greetings

Definitely a huge improvement. A few comments: 1. I agree that devel projects should be available in the view. 2. Regarding home projects, perhaps at the very bottom there could be a "show user packages" or "show community packages". The first time this is clicked a warning could appear telling users about the security and stability risks, and make them press another button to see the list. This would be remembered in a cookie. They would always be hidden by default. 3. One exception: if the user is logged in, could it be made to show their own home project packages by default? 4. Regarding the multi-distro metapackages, packman is not the only one to do that. The nvidia binary packages also offer this: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers Maybe the maintainers of these packages can also help. 5. It would be nice if there was a way to install language files as well. Perhaps if there is a lang package, there could be a button. If there are individual language files, there could be a dropdown list. 6. You don't explain how the user got to this page. There is nothing in the search box, and no substring matches. One possibility would be to have the search list every uniquely-named matching package (minus devel, lang, debuginfo, etc). There would be exact matches first, followed by substring matches. There could also be an option to search the package descriptions. When a user clicks on a package name, there is an option to install the "default" package version, and a button for "more versions". which takes you to the page you listed. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner@opensuse.org