On Tuesday 14 Feb 2012 19:40:34 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

LO 3.5 has been released which comes with some very useful features, when will it be available for openSUSE 12.1? I have LO repo enabled.

Good question. Petr, can you tell us when LO 3.5.0 will be in the OBS for 12.1? LO:Stable and LO:Unstable both have 3.4.3. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:12, Petr Mladek wrote:

We are now big part of the community around LibreOffice. We made a big effort to make 3.5.0 release as good as possible.

It paid off... the new release is very good (I'm not seeing any significant issues so far - at least that are not already noted in the LibO annoying bugs list) For the impatient, you can download/install the RPM packages directly from the LibO website. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 15 February 2012 10:12:26 Petr Mladek wrote:

I know that 3.5.0 would be perfectly fine Factory. It is shame that we do not have the package for openSUSE. I'll do my best to improve the timing with the future releases. Please, be patient. LibreOffice is still very young and growing project. The old developers spend a lot of time helping new volunteers to get up to speed, ...

I guess that means that volunteers to help out with packaging LibreOffice 3.5 in OBS would be very welcome, and I think that as SUSE is a major sponsor of LibreOffice, active openSUSE contributors providing access to its releases would be a healthy addition to our project. I'm sure it's not a trivial update, but as LO is relatively self-contained, it's also not insanely difficult either. Anyone with patience and perseverence, and attention to detail want to step up and help Petr? Will -- Will Stephenson | openSUSE Board, openSUSE Boosters Team, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 15/02/12 20:20, C wrote:

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:12, Petr Mladek wrote:

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We are now big part of the community around LibreOffice. We made a big effort to make 3.5.0 release as good as possible. It paid off... the new release is very good (I'm not seeing any significant issues so far - at least that are not already noted in the LibO annoying bugs list)

For the impatient, you can download/install the RPM packages directly from the LibO website.

Well that was a total fizzer :-) . Downloaded the necessary RPMs installed all as instructed and then....zilch :-) . Error: cannot run the darn thing because /home/<name>/.local/share/applications/startcenter.desktop is missing :-( . I'll go looking in the backyard for this missing file after I wake up later in the morning :-) . BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

# warning, below is a fairly long email on beginner package upgrading via OBS # don't proceed unless you are prepared to experience the wonders of OBS. # Many will fail, but those that succeed will be called "OBS packager!", # A moniker with honor unbounded. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Rodney Baker wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:21:36 Will Stephenson wrote:

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I'm sure it's not a trivial update, but as LO is relatively self-contained, it's also not insanely difficult either.  Anyone with patience and perseverence, and attention to detail want to step up and help Petr?

Will

I'd volunteer to help if someone will mentor me through the process. I have absolutely no idea how to write a spec file and none of the online guides I've read have made much sense for some reason. I figure once I've done the first one, though, I'll learn pretty quickly. In this case I'm guessing that it should be possible to start with the existing spec file for 3.4.x  as a template?

Rodney, I started messing with OBS a couple years ago. First be very aware of the use or project and package. LO is is project composed of lots of packages. When I first started packaging, I did not make a big distinction between those in my mind, and it confused me. Anyway, often it is relatively straightforward to do a version upgrade for a single package. But sometimes it can turn into a more sophisticated process. There are a lot of LO packages, so each one has to be updated separately. And tested of course. You will find lots of good help on the opensuse-packaging mailinglist. The wiki portal for packaging is very complete: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Packaging Note all the pages listed on the right hand side. I'd start with the tutorial: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Tutorial The below steps go with the tutorial, so be sure not to just read the below: Step 1: Do both the WebGUI step and the CLI step. It's not either/or. Your step 2 (Step Two – Create & Upload packages) will be different than the tutorial. You will want to branch a copy of which ever version you need to update. I don't know which project you need to branch from. Assume for a minute it's LibreOffice:Stable, (but I hope there is a staging repo that is actually a better choice.) https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=LibreOffice%3AStable If I were you, I'd just create a sub-project in your home project dedicated to those packages. Using the WebUI that is basically trivial. Decide which of the LO packages you want to work on first. Here's the list: https://build.opensuse.org/project/packages?project=LibreOffice%3AStable I'll assume for a second it's libreoffice-calc. Goto it's overview page: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=libreoffice-calc&project=LibreOffice%3AStable If you're logged in, you should see "branch package" as an action in the middle of the page. If you click that, a new sub-project will be created inside your home project and a branched copy of libre-calc will be placed there. At that point you have accomplished step 2 of the tutorial. Step 3: Make sure you have at least Factory and 12.1 as targets. When you do a local build, it will default to building for factory, so I always have factory as a build target no matter what. It just simplifies things. Step 4: You don't yet have a local copy of the package, so set that up first: # Create a working area # Call your working area whatever you want to # I have all my obs projects as sub-folders of ~/obs, but you can do whatever.

cd ~ mkdir obs

checkout a copy of the package you now have on OBS. The basic command is osc co <project> <package> In my case

cd ~/obs osc co home:gregfreemyer:branches:LibreOffice:Stable libreoffice-calc

Now you should have a directory similar to: ~/obs/home:gregfreemyer:branches:LibreOffice:Stable/libreoffice-calc cd into your directory and verify you can do a local build of the package.

osc build

That should run for several minutes with lots of output. It will then ask for the root password. Once you provide that, it will run for many more minutes, so don't walk away overnight. At the end of all the output it should show that rpm packages are built. Congratulations, you have just built your first package. Once you get that far, post again and I can walk you through the first update of that package. I think you will be surprised how simple it is. The real issue is the large number of packages to update and that you should do at least some basic testing. Good Luck Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Basil Chupin [02-16-12 00:35]:

(And now, to once again reconfigure the darn thing with all the settings I had before :-( . Why can't it use the settings already in existence?)

Because you are now using a package *not* configured for your openSUSE system and it looks for things in different locations. You could, perhaps, take the settings from ~/.libreoffice/* to where-ever the non-openSUSE package put's its <user-settings> :^) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin píše v Pá 17. 02. 2012 v 10:20 +1100:

On 17/02/12 04:21, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Basil Chupin [02-16-12 00:35]:

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(And now, to once again reconfigure the darn thing with all the settings I had before :-( . Why can't it use the settings already in existence?)

Because you are now using a package *not* configured for your openSUSE system and it looks for things in different locations.

You could, perhaps, take the settings from ~/.libreoffice/* to where-ever the non-openSUSE package put's its<user-settings> :^)

First thing I looked at but things have changed in 3.5 and the settings in .../xdg are not found in earlier (SUSE) version. The simplest thing to do was to simply copy the files to where 3.5 wants to see them.

The upstream LO packages migrate configuration from ~/.libreoffice/3 to ~/.config/libreoffice/3 The openSUSE packages use different directory ~/.libreoffice/3-suse to avoid problems with incompatible BerkleyDB and different paths of the upstream and openSUSE build. I have already started to work on the 3.5 packages for openSUSE. I need few more days to get something buildable and useful. Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org