On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:01:13 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner. --doug Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app: Installed xsane via yast:

On 9/28/20 8:30 PM, Dave Howorth wrote: linux1:~ # zypper install xsane Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following NEW package is going to be installed:   xsane 1 new package to install. Overall download size: 1.7 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 5.0 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y Retrieving package xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64 (1/1),   1.7 MiB (  5.0 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64.rpm ..................................................................[done (1.5 MiB/s)] Checking for file conflicts: ........................................................................................[done] (1/1) Installing: xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64 ............................................................................[done] what happens if you type it as a command?: $ xsane -h doug@linux1:~> xsane -h XSane version: 0.999 (c) 1998-2013 Oliver Rauch Usage: xsane [OPTION]... [DEVICE] Start up graphical user interface to access SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy) devices. The format of [DEVICE] is backendname:devicefile (e.g. umax:/dev/scanner). [OPTION]... can be a combination of the following items:  -h, --help                   display this help message and exit  -v, --version                print version information  -l, --license                print license information  -d, --device-settings file   load device settings from file (without ".drc")  -V, --viewer                 start with viewer-mode active (default)  -s, --save                   start with save-mode active  -c, --copy                   start with copy-mode active  -m, --multipage              start with multipage-mode active  -f, --fax                    start with fax-mode active  -e, --email                  start with e-mail-mode active  -n, --no-mode-selection      disable menu for XSane mode selection  -F, --Fixed                  fixed main window size (overwrite preferences value)  -R, --Resizeable             resizable, scrolled main window (overwrite preferences value)  -p, --print-filenames        print image filenames created by XSane  -N, --force-filename name    force filename and disable user filename selection  --display X11-display        redirect output to X11-display  --no-xshm                    do not use shared memory images  --sync                       request a synchronous connection with the X11 server The Epson is turned on and connected.  Icon use fails with scanner not found; tried from Konsole—"no devices available" From years-ago: "In dll.conf, make sure that epson2.conf is uncommented" yes, I uncommented that a while ago for this reason. Also, in old PCLOS system,  /sane.d/epson.conf line shows net autodiscovery (like in epson2.conf) but not in TW, so added line. Makes no difference. The instructions continued: "Sometimes xsane does not work out of the box and needs some other scan program to 'kickstart' it. It seems that this has to do with the lp (parallel port) module being loaded. Blacklist it (put the line blacklist lp in /etc/modprobe.d in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist) and remove it. (modprobe -r  lp)." There is nothing resembling that in  /etc/modprobe.d and I didn't mess with it. Need suggestions, please.   --doug

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doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png

Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!) Is it turned on and connected?

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--doug

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On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:

https://susepaste.org/5295001

Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/09/2020 04.32, Doug McGarrett wrote:

https://susepaste.org/5295001

Enclosed paste indicates that epson2 is the necessary nomenclature--which is what I have in the various relevant files.

No, it doesn't.

You have to press "add" then search for "4530" as I did.

I can't get back there. I'm completely lost at this point. Anyway, epson2 is what it was called in previous Linux installation. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 9/29/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 9/29/20 4:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/09/2020 20.51, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 9/29/20 4:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Carlos has been insisting that Yast can install the scanner. He was only partly correct. Yast can install the scanner if the *necessary files* are in the system. In this case, the necessary file was *not* in the system. An Epson scanner requires /etc/sane.d/epkowa. The epkowa file does not exist in the system as shipped. It exists in my TW system now, and it will exist in my Leap system when I get around to it. Copied from an old PCLOS laptop. Yast had no trouble finding the scanner at first try since I installed the necessary file, and XSane now scans perfectly. It took quite a bit of research to determine that this was the problem, but I finally decided to add the file, figuring it can't hurt if it doesn't work--it just wouldn't be accessed. Now to try and get the HP printer to work once again, and hope that it doesn't blow away the Epson all-mode. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:07 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

An Epson scanner requires

/etc/sane.d/epkowa.

The epkowa file does not exist in the system as shipped.

It exists in my TW system now, and it will exist in my Leap system when

I get around to

it. Copied from an old PCLOS laptop.

Yast had no trouble finding the scanner at first try since I installed

the necessary file, and

XSane now scans perfectly.

FWIW, I also have an Epson scanner and that file is provided for iscan-2.30.1-1.usb0.1.ltdl7.x86_64 Epson provides Linux downloads for their drivers at https://support.epson.net/linux/en/imagescanv3.php There is an OpenSUSE section. TW is not listed, but I'd try with the latest version from the list (Leap 15.1 at this time). Hope this helps, Robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 2020-09-29 5:36 p.m., Doug McGarrett wrote:

I don't know if I can view these files without actually decompressing them where they live. Is there a way to view a compressed file without leaving it decompressed in place? My 917 page reference book doesn't answer that.

To read sane.7.gz, open a console and type at the command line: man sane Those files are part of the manpages package, which is installed by default. To learn how to use the package, type "man man". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

On 9/29/20 4:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 29/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.

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Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:

doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png

Because it is indeed a photo *file*.

You are still looking for packages the wrong way, using "locate" (that is a file finder) instead of using rpm, zypper, or yast to find *packages".

For example, with "rpm" command:

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-lp151.2.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> It tells me I have xsane installed. Notice that "|" is a vertical bar, not lowercase "L". The pipe symbol. I understand the pipe. For some reason I get a different answer to the rpm command:

doug@linux1:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64 I had to look up this use of the rpm command--I was not familiar with it. Anyway, what is the meaning of the different output?

If it is not installed, then you can use zypper to find it in your active repos:

cer@Telcontar:~> zypper --no-refresh search xsane Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...

S  | Name                      | Summary                   | Type ---+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------+--------

i+ | xsane                       | A GTK-Based Graphical Scanning Front-End for SANE | package   | xsane-debuginfo      | Debug information for package xsane                             | package   | xsane-debugsource  | Debug sources for package xsane                                   | package cer@Telcontar:~>

Or you can use YaST in a graphical way. I posted this already, but I'll do it again. With a photo. See the attached photo, it explains how to *search* for a *package* with YaST.

I could not duplicate the picture, try as I might.

PLEASE CONFIRM that you have received this message and read it.

I have read thru it, and I don't get all the same results that you do.

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Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!) The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer. Yes, I understand that. Here is the result of the yast query:

Using yast, (YaST2) : Scanner Configuration Driver v                  Scanner epson2                  No scanner recognized by this driver net                          No scanner recognized by this driver Following up on that: Page called "Set Up Scanning via Network"                 Server Settings Permitted Clients for saned 127.0.0.0/8,                                    changed to 192.168.1.0/24, per note in box                 Client Settings Servers Used for the net Metadriver localhost,                                          that's what this was set at; I didn't change it                 Predefined Configurations Local Host Configuration Disable Scanning via Network <<<<<<<<

On 29/09/2020 20.29, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 9/29/20 4:21 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/09/2020 02.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 9/28/20 7:46 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Subject says it all. Have looked in yast finder without result. I like the interface for a scanner.

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Correction: Xsane -- sorry about that! But the file seems to indicate a PICTURE, not an app:

doug@linux1:~> locate xsane /usr/share/doc/packages/hplip/images/xsane.png

Because it is indeed a photo *file*.

You are still looking for packages the wrong way, using "locate" (that is a file finder) instead of using rpm, zypper, or yast to find *packages".

For example, with "rpm" command:

cer@Telcontar:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-lp151.2.3.x86_64 cer@Telcontar:~> It tells me I have xsane installed. Notice that "|" is a vertical bar, not lowercase "L". The pipe symbol. I understand the pipe. For some reason I get a different answer to the rpm command:

doug@linux1:~> rpm -qa | grep -i xsane xsane-0.999-3.4.x86_64

You are using tumbleweed again! :-/

I had to look up this use of the rpm command--I was not familiar with it. Anyway, what is the meaning of the different output?

That you are using Tumbleweed again.

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Or you can use YaST in a graphical way. I posted this already, but I'll do it again. With a photo. See the attached photo, it explains how to *search* for a *package* with YaST. I could not duplicate the picture, try as I might.

PLEASE CONFIRM that you have received this message and read it. I have read thru it, and I don't get all the same results that you do.

Well, post screenshots of what you get. Use http://susepaste.org to place them for some limited time.

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Also, yast can't find a scanner, even tho it is a part of the Epson WP-4530 all-in-one (which I finally got working!) The scanner is for all purposes a different machine than the printer. Yes, I understand that. Here is the result of the yast query:

Using yast, (YaST2) :

Scanner Configuration

Driver v                  Scanner epson2                  No scanner recognized by this driver net                          No scanner recognized by this driver

Post photos. Make sure you start yast from the desktop menu. The program is called "yast2" if you call it manually, and in that case you have to use "su -", like this: cer@Telcontar:~> su - Password: Telcontar:~ # yast2 & [1] 30494 Telcontar:~ # -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)