September 2012 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-project] Re: Alionet.org + openSUSE.org
by Florian Leparoux 24 Sep '12

24 Sep '12

Hi alexis, Le 21 sept. 2012 à 09:49, "Alexis \"Agemen\"" <a9emen(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > On 21 September 2012 07:45, Florian Leparoux <florian.leparoux(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Le 20 sept. 2012 à 23:35, Jim Henderson <hendersj(a)gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:20:25 +0200, Florian Leparoux wrote: >>> >>>> We need to think for all non-english openSUSE community and not just for >>>> the french community. >>> >>> We do currently have a number of non-English language sections on the >>> openSUSE forums, including a French one - I don't know if you've talked >>> with the moderators of that group (though I know someone from Alionet is >>> talking to swerdna as well). >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> In fact there is a thread in alionet.org, in the ML-FR, a discussion with opensuse moderator, #opensuse-fr and for finish in this ML >> >> Flo >>> -- > Hi everybody, > > I guess it's time to explain a bit why we did this proposal, and why > we think it is a good idea... > > The original objective is, as underlined by Florian, to make the > french community more coherent. I say french here for simplicity, but > that's a bit broader because this forum is used by french speaking > people, not only french. The french community is quite parceled out. > Participation to the broader, international project, does not suffer > from any problem. There are people participating to packaging, IRC and > other parts of the project from both forums. Fortunately. That would > be a real shame otherwise. > > Currently, Alionet is offering some services. There's not only a > forum, but blogs, a CMS dedicated to news and an independant wiki. > There has even been an IRC chan... To be honest, that does not work. > We don't want to do that anymore, splitting our energy in redundant > projects. Whatever will be decided in the end, the wiki will certainly > disappear. It's already hard enough to maintain one, let's not > maintain both. And as I've said, we already decided to remove public > IRC chans linked to Alionet. There are still some private ones, but > dedicated to technical discussions around the website. > > In my opinion, though, three things must not disappear. First, the CMS > (for the news), then the blogs. There are not much that are written in > french, and that's a good store front. People interested in openSUSE > can have news about it in french. That may seem silly, but... well... > french people are not always at their ease when it comes to speak > english. So they can't stay tuned with the projects and actions made > by openSUSE, or not in a single place. > > That said, it's time to speak about the forums. Alionet is way more > used than the french forum in forums.opensuse.org. There are many more > posts there... Of course, that does not do everything. That's just > some "fact"... If we consider only people using forums (everybody does > not particpate to a project the same way... some prefer MLs, other > IRC, other forums, some use many of them...), it seems the Alionet > community is wider. I may be wrong. > > On the technical side, we're actively working to enable nntp. That's a > problem because, for historical reasons[1], our DB uses an iso > charset, while the vBulletin nntp plugin requires UTF8. The SSO part > may be more difficult, however... > > Finally, some side notes. Florian presented Alionet as a "concurrent" > of openSUSE. I don't think it is. Alionet is an association "loi 1901" > in France. The main reason, originally, was that we wanted to have a > clean way to collect money to pay our server. Until then, it has been > proven that, at a local level, it is a good way to gather people and > to strengthen the links between them. > > The Alionet association has been legally created to "promote free > software, the GNU/Linux operating systems, and particularly SUSE and > openSUSE". I think it is self-explanatory. Moreover, since the > creation of the association, we've tried to participate to FOSS > events, on openSUSE stands. I went to the RMLL last year, in LUGs and > in Solutions Linux this year. I may be in Paris again in October. Each > time, we've made this with openSUSE mates. And I say mates. Even if > I'm the "president of the association Alionet", I'm also a member of > the openSUSE community, and that is always a real pleasure to meet > other members of this commmunity. And I personnally don't care if they > are "from Alionet or not". Alionet as been thought as a relay, as a > support, from the beginning. We won't fork the distribution, we won't > try to beat openSUSE. We want to work with and for openSUSE. Call us > concurrent if you want. I, personnally, wouldn't. > > I hope this message helps the debate in some ways. I will follow this > thread, of course... as I do most of the time on openSUSE MLs. > > Best wishes, > > Alexis "Agemen". > > [1] The former server were Alionet lived was not dedicated, and we > then did not have the choice of the charset for the db. That's a > shame... and fixing that takes some time. > -- > OrbisGIS supporter. I just want to say : thanks for this explanation. I think for the global comprehension this message can help everyone. Florian-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] 12.2 install from ISO-loop using GRUB2 not working
by Joram Kruijer 22 Sep '12

22 Sep '12

Dear developers, I have installed openSUSE 12.1 from an ISO by booting it with GRUB2 (from a NTFS-formatted primary partition) using the following commands: loopback loop /openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso linux (loop)/boot/x86_64/loader/linux iso-scan/filename=/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso splash=silent showopts install=hd:/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso initrd (loop)/boot/x86_64/loader/initrd Using these same commands to install 12.2, LinuxRC tells me that it can't find the repositories. If I specify an instsys-parameter, it still can't seem to find it's repo's. Any thoughts on this? The sha1 is correct, and since 12.1 did launch YaST and installed successful, I can't figure out why 12.2 doesn't. Has something changed in the LinuxRC-part or the way repo's are stored and loaded? Thank you in advance and keep up the good work, Joram -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Alionet.org + openSUSE.org
by Florian Leparoux 21 Sep '12

21 Sep '12

Hello guys, I do not know if you are aware but some member of the French Community have the desire to reunite the french opensuse forum. I would like to know your views for this proposition : - Integrate french opensuse forum into Alionet forum - keep the opensuse-fr irc channel on freenode - integrate all french opensuse documentation into french opensuse wiki. For me I think it's a good and a bad idea :) Some prerequisites are necessary for me (and other optionals) : - openSUSE authentification (SSO) with the Alionet community, - nntp protocol - etc ... Actually we are in talks and all views will be appreciated. Florian / T1loc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t1locs(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] #ossum12 on Storify
by Mike McCallister 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Folks, I've set up this location on Storify.com to collect news and tweets about the Summit this weekend. If you're not familiar, Storify lets you set up searches across Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Flickr, Instagram and Google to track events and topics. From there, you can curate out of the firehose. Follow along and share your news and comments here: http://storify.com/WorkingWriter/first-opensuse-summit/ Wish I could be with y'all, but I'm hoping this will be the next best thing! Have fun Lizards! Mike McCallister Writer/Author /openSUSE Linux Unleashed/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development
by Jos Poortvliet 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 09:51:46 Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 11:57 +0200, Guido Berhoerster wrote: > > That means also excluding people from the decision-making process > > (regardless of their stake in openSUSE development) who simply > > cannot attend due to time constraints. A problem that doesn't > > exist with asynchronous means of communication like email or the > > web. > > Jos is not suggesting that conferences replace other forms of > communication altogether. People *should* communicate however they best > can on medium that is available to them. But he is bringing the point > forward that you have a unique opportunity at conferences to talk > directly face to face with people who make decisions and state your case > more clearly verbally if the mood strikes you. Yup, sorry for my miss-communication. I'm saying it is important and valuable to come to the conference - not that you don't matter or have no influence over our future direction if you don't manage to go there. Also: I think it would be extremely valuable to open some discussions up for a wider audience using Google Hangouts. Folks with laptops capable of doing that can take care of creating hangouts quite easily and we should all keep that in mind once it is time for the meetings to start: set up a hangout! Note that the most interesting meetings happen on Monday and Tuesday according to the schedule: http://bootstrapping-awesome.org/schedule Hugs, Jos

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[opensuse-project] Forbidden on http://download.opensuse.org/*
by Joop Boonen 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Dear all, I just saw access on http://download.opensuse.org/* is currently forbidden. I don't know if the already has been noticed? Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse-python mailing list
by Alex Naumov 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Hi, I think it will be great to create a new mailing list about python development on openSUSE. As I can see we have opensuse-ruby and opensuse-java mailing lists already. I use python at work and I think it will be very helpful to get quick help/support about python-modules and/or python-packaging related questions. Cheers, Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Summit Android App
by Matt Barringer 20 Sep '12

20 Sep '12

Hi, I've released the openSUSE Summit (and eventually, Conference) Android app onto Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.incoherent.suseconferencec… If you don't have access to Google Play for whatever reason, you can also install the app directly from Github: https://github.com/mbarringer/suseconferenceclient/downloads If you don't have an Android phone, but want to see what it looks like, screenshots are here: https://github.com/mbarringer/suseconferenceclient/wiki/Screenshots If you find any bugs or have suggestions, please report them via github or directly to me if you don't have a github account. Thanks, and have fun at the Summit, Matt -- Matt Barringer, Software Engineer SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, DE GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)

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Re: [opensuse-project] 12.3 Schedule and development - version number
by Martin Schlander 18 Sep '12

18 Sep '12

Tirsdag den 18. september 2012 18:51:05 skrev nir haber: > i think that yes we need 1 year cycle release because 8 months its very > short (most users, not only linux users, dont want to upgrade every 8 > months there OS) and in that time that we have (12 months) we can also > find away to attract developers or companies to develop to opensuse OS They don't have to. There's 18 month support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 17:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 18 Sep '12

18 Sep '12

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 17:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=19&month=9&year=2012&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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