On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:34 PM, todd rme wrote:

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Marc Benstein wrote:

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I'm using KKFD and pulseaudio has been missing from the sound system configuration since 4.4.0. Now, my intel (whatever) fails back to " device." on startup. I seem to be failing back to something because everything is working fine after that. I'm using the xine backend.

What happened to pulseaudio in the sound system configuration?

Pulseaudio is the only why I can get multiple applications to play sounds at the same time.

There is a known bug with opensuse where users are not getting proper sound permissions.  Check to see if adding yourself to the "audio" group fixes the problem.

As of 4.4 pulseaudio support should now be integrated directly into Phonon, so rather than having a hacked-in "Pulseaudio" device, the sound system configuration will now transparently display individual pulseaudio devices in the device list if a version of pulseaudio with the necessary patches is available.  See here:

http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/10/kde-plus-pulseaudio-does-not-equal-sucks/

I do not know if opensuse has added the necessary patches or not, though.  If the patches are not present, the system should fall back to just displaying the single pulseaudio device, so make sure the permissions are set correctly.

They have not. It looks like it (phonon's specfile) is missing a BuildRequires for pulseaudio bits. I filed a bug about this a few days ago. My understanding is that when the proper buildrequires have been added and phonon rebuilds that it should *natively* support pulseaudio. Since my audio works with everything else, and I'm making extensive use of pulseaudio, I know it's just a KDE 4.4 (on openSUSE) problem. KDE 4.3.X worked fine. -- Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:10:54 +0100, Per Osbäck wrote

tisdag 23 mars 2010 18.50.52 skrev Marc Benstein:

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I'm using KKFD and pulseaudio has been missing from the sound system configuration since 4.4.0. Now, my intel (whatever) fails back to " device." on startup. I seem to be failing back to something because everything is working fine after that. I'm using the xine backend.

What happened to pulseaudio in the sound system configuration?

you could try packages from:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSUSE_...

like the others explained phonon has native pulseaudio support if built with it.

there are also mandriva patches for kmix.

After installing the packages in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSUSE_... everything is working as it was with 4.3 and pulseaudio. Of course kmix was a little shocking when there was only one channel. But that's great! Hopefully now, I won't get calls from home on which channel(S)! to turn down/up all the speakers. Thanks Per! Also, I'm still using the pulse startup script: #!/bin/bash export ALSA_CONFIG_PATH=/etc/alsa-pulse.conf -- Marc Benstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

torsdag 25 mars 2010 09.13.46 skrev Mathias Homann:

Am Mittwoch, 24. März 2010 08:10:54 schrieb Per Osbäck:

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you could try packages from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSU SE _Factory/

which of your two repos do i use for a opensuse 11.2 + kde 4.4.1 from factory? this? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSUSE _11.2_KDE4_Factory/home:perosb:pulseaudio.repo

yes, correct.

bye, MH

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måndag 29 mars 2010 00.34.08 skrev todd rme:

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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tisdag 23 mars 2010 18.50.52 skrev Marc Benstein:

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I'm using KKFD and pulseaudio has been missing from the sound system configuration since 4.4.0. Now, my intel (whatever) fails back to " device." on startup. I seem to be failing back to something because everything is working fine after that. I'm using the xine backend.

What happened to pulseaudio in the sound system configuration?

you could try packages from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSU SE_Factory/

like the others explained phonon has native pulseaudio support if built with it.

there are also mandriva patches for kmix.

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Pulseaudio is the only why I can get multiple applications to play sounds at the same time.

Recently I lost all phonon-based sound completely. The only sound device I have is one pulseaudio device. I tried installing phonon from:

does that mean you already had pulseaudio installed but you weren't using it? meaning maybe you didn't have sound through pulseaudio before either? if you're not using it, try either as root; echo "PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1" >> /etc/environment and log out and back in. or zypper in patterns-openSUSE-kde4_pure i.e removing pulseaudio.

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/perosb:/pulseaudio/openSUSE _11.2_KDE4_Factory/

But it didn't help. Is there anything else I need to do? Do I need to join a specific group, should I or should I not have specific packages installed, do I need to configure anything? Sound works from non-phonon media sources like flash, but phonon-based media players like amarok, dragon player, kde notifications, and the system settings sound player do not have sound at all.

-Todd

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måndag 29 mars 2010 16.38.05 skrev todd rme:

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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måndag 29 mars 2010 00.34.08 skrev todd rme:

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Recently I lost all phonon-based sound completely. The only sound device I have is one pulseaudio device. I tried installing phonon

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from: does that mean you already had pulseaudio installed but you weren't using it? meaning maybe you didn't have sound through pulseaudio before either?

if you're not using it, try either as root;

echo "PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1" >> /etc/environment

and log out and back in. or

zypper in patterns-openSUSE-kde4_pure

i.e removing pulseaudio.

I already had pulseaudio installed. PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 restores sound. But according to what I have read, the phonon patches should mean that I see all the devices reported by pulseaudio listed

if you have pulseaudio and phonon uses it, there will only be a single PulseAudio SoundServer entry in multimedia/phonon. if phonon doesn't use pulseaudio, (i.e. disable=1) you should see your normal devices.

in the multimedia list, not just one generic pulseaudio device, and phonon-based sound was lost, all other audio worked.

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måndag 29 mars 2010 21.24.53 skrev todd rme:

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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måndag 29 mars 2010 16.38.05 skrev todd rme:

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I already had pulseaudio installed. PHONON_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 restores sound. But according to what I have read, the phonon patches should mean that I see all the devices reported by pulseaudio listed

if you have pulseaudio and phonon uses it, there will only be a single PulseAudio SoundServer entry in multimedia/phonon.

From everything I have read this is not how pulseaudio is supposed to

you're right. make sure you have loaded module-device-manager in pulseaudio to get the device list.

work in KDE 4.4 (see the link I posted at the beginning of this discussion).

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tisdag 30 mars 2010 03.44.24 skrev todd rme:

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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måndag 29 mars 2010 21.24.53 skrev todd rme:

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From everything I have read this is not how pulseaudio is supposed to

you're right. make sure you have loaded module-device-manager in pulseaudio to get the device list.

How do I do that? I'm not very familiar with pulseaudio.

hmm, from what I can see it should do that automatically. However it needs the pactl for that which is not installed by default. zypper in pulseaudio-utils it should then load that module whenever you login to KDE. (so logout and in)

-Todd

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tisdag 30 mars 2010 16.01.00 skrev todd rme:

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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tisdag 30 mars 2010 03.44.24 skrev todd rme:

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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Per Osbäck wrote:

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måndag 29 mars 2010 21.24.53 skrev todd rme:

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From everything I have read this is not how pulseaudio is supposed to

you're right. make sure you have loaded module-device-manager in pulseaudio to get the device list.

How do I do that? I'm not very familiar with pulseaudio.

hmm, from what I can see it should do that automatically. However it needs the pactl for that which is not installed by default.

zypper in pulseaudio-utils

it should then load that module whenever you login to KDE. (so logout and in)

I already had that installed. Do I need an updated version of pulseaudio?

what are you using? oS11.2 should have 0.9.21 as an online update try to load it manually: pactl load-module module-device-manager or add it to /etc/pulse/default.pa

-Todd

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