On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Ismail Doenmez wrote:

On 07/30/2011 12:15 PM, todd rme wrote:

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Here is a list of missing dependencies from KDE:Distro:Factory builds:

This is a very nice list, thanks! Component freeze is in 7 days so we have to act real fast if we want any of these in. Comments inline.

I was supposed to wait to start submitting stuff to KDF until I got the go-ahead, can I start again?

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I have put together a list of missing dependencies for packages in KDE:Distro:Factory.  They fall in a few categories:

--- 1. Dependencies that appear useful but are not currently packaged in any openSUSE repositories.  These may have legal issues (in rough order of how important they appear):

QtIndicate or qindicate: Used by choqok, clementine, .  An indicator library.

Never heard this one, is it used for Ubuntu's Unity integration?

I'm not 100% sure, but it appears likely. Are we supporting that?

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mobile-broadband-provider-info:  Used by NetworkManager-KDE4. Database of mobile broadband service providers.  Needed for Mobile Connection Wizard support in Broadband Modem Management.  This is currently available from packman.

This is useful, we should check the license and copy the package if possible.

I was wrong, this is already in factory.

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OpenConnect: Used by NetworkManager-KDE4.  Cisco AnyConnect compatible VPN client. Needed for OpenConnect support in Network Management.  I do not see this in OBS at all.

Same for this one.

Somehow I missed this as well, it is in Meega:Netbook.

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CLucene1: used by strigi for some sort of searching.  Only the 0.9 branch of clucene is available in openSUSE.

This could easily result in a pile of bugs. Need to check what other distributions are doing.

Okay

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liblocation: used by marble, presumably for some gps stuff.

Sounds useful.

Apparently this is not useful outside of cell phone.

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libmms:  Used by kdnetwork and kradio.  Needed to build KGet mms support.  This is currently available from packman.

Useful again but wonder if there is any patent problems.

I don't know, someone would need to ask about the legal issues.

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openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression.  Required by the Krita JPEG 2000 filter.  This is currently available from packman.

Might be missing due to patent problems.

Ditto.

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Spnav: Used by koffice (and calligra).  Required by SpaceNavigator 3D mouse plugin.  This is available from several home: repositories.

Doesn't hurt.

This might have legal issues as well, though.

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DCMTK: Used by koffice (and calligra).  Required for processing DICOM structured reports.  This is available from several home: repositories.

Ditto.

home:frispete:KDE:Distro:Factory has this. It was updated recently. Is frispete on the opensuse-kde team?

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--- 2. Dependencies that are available in OBS, but are not in opensuse-factory:

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QNtrack: Used by kdebase4-runtime.  Network status tracking library. Provides data input for Solid network status.  It is available from the Network repository, amongst other places.

Should be submitted to Factory.

Do I do this or should someone on the opensuse-kde team do it?

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ffmpeg: Used by amarok, k3b, kdemultimedia4, kradio, opencv, and strigi.  Headers are available, I can see if these will build with them

This is very important if we can get a stub ffmpeg which can be overwritten by a working one.

Someone needs to move the packages into an "offical" repo, then.

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XPlanet: Used by kstars for rendering planets.  This was in openSUSE but removed, now it is in hamradio.

Any idea why it was removed?

No.

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--- 3. Dependencies that are available in openSUSE-factory, but are not currently being used in the package (I can add these easily enough if there is no reason not to):

R: Used by Cantor.  A free software environment for statistical computing and graphics. Backend to use R with Cantor.

Can this be a separate package?

Doubtful, but I can check.

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libcfitsio0 and libindi: Used by kstars.  Once again I am not sure what is going on here, KDF has these packags and assume they are there specifically for kstars.

This should be in, looks like a bug.

I have these installed on my local trunk machine but they aren't detected for some reason. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

todd rme wrote:

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Ismail Doenmez wrote:

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On 07/30/2011 12:15 PM, todd rme wrote:

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Here is a list of missing dependencies from KDE:Distro:Factory builds:

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libcfitsio0 and libindi: Used by kstars. Once again I am not sure what is going on here, KDF has these packags and assume they are there specifically for kstars.

This should be in, looks like a bug.

I have these installed on my local trunk machine but they aren't detected for some reason.

kstars requires version 0.8.0 or higher but 0.6.2 is in K:D:F. I have 0.8.0 already in my home repo. I'm holding it because there are two patches that I have submitted upstream regarding two rpm post-build check errors ("bufferoverflowstrncat" and "no-return-in-nonvoid-function") and I'm waiting for a response if they are correct. I can make a submit request if someone can check them.

-Todd

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Hi; On 08/04/2011 10:03 AM, todd rme wrote:

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, todd rme wrote:

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Here is a list of missing dependencies from KDE:Distro:Factory builds:

I have put together a list of missing dependencies for packages in KDE:Distro:Factory. They fall in a few categories:

Here is my progress so far:

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--- 1. Dependencies that appear useful but are not currently packaged in any openSUSE repositories. These may have legal issues (in rough order of how important they appear):

QtIndicate or qindicate: Used by choqok, clementine, . An indicator library.

Was there a decision on whether we want this in the first place?

Lets ignore this one for now.

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mobile-broadband-provider-info: Used by NetworkManager-KDE4. Database of mobile broadband service providers. Needed for Mobile Connection Wizard support in Broadband Modem Management. This is currently available from packman.

Already in factory

Do we need a Requires for plasmoid-networkmanagement?

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OpenConnect: Used by NetworkManager-KDE4. Cisco AnyConnect compatible VPN client. Needed for OpenConnect support in Network Management. I do not see this in OBS at all.

I'm working on this.

Cool.

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CLucene1: used by strigi for some sort of searching. Only the 0.9 branch of clucene is available in openSUSE.

Was someone going to check what other distributions are doing with this? I has been a dependency for a few releases now at least.

This is too risky for now, we can ignore this.

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liblocation: used by marble, presumably for some gps stuff.

Apparently only needed by cell phones

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libmms: Used by kdnetwork and kradio. Needed to build KGet mms support. This is currently available from packman.

openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression. Required by the Krita JPEG 2000 filter. This is currently available from packman.

These likely have patent issues. Has anyone checked with legal to confirm this? Apparently using the packman headers is not possible. Maybe someone should talk to the developers about making it so these can be installed separately, like k3b codecs, if this isn't already possible. Then they can be distributed in packman.

I'll check the patent status.

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Spnav: Used by koffice (and calligra). Required by SpaceNavigator 3D mouse plugin. This is available from several home: repositories.

Accepted into KDF, now the dependencies just need to be enabled (and does it need to be submitted to opensuse:factory now?)

Yes please submit to Factory ASAP.

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DCMTK: Used by koffice (and calligra). Required for processing DICOM structured reports. This is available from several home: repositories.

I think I am getting close to having this working.

Good!

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Cuda: Used by opencv, presumably to offload operations onto the graphics card. Available from several home: repos.

This is not open-source software, like the nvidia drivers.

-> ignore.

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--- 2. Dependencies that are available in OBS, but are not in opensuse-factory:

Qwt: Used by kdebindings-smokeqt, Perl-Qt4, and Ruby-Qt4. Needed to compile Qwt5 bindings, providing scientific widgets. It is also used by several scientific packages. It is available in contrib.

Submitted to KDF

Accepted and forwarded to Factory.

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QtZeitgeist: Used by kdebase4-runtime and phonon. Zeitgeist and QtZeitgeist is needed for resource tracking. I have a working package for this that is now in kde-extra, it can be incorporated at any time.

Accepted into KDF

Please forward to Factory.

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HUPnP: used by kdelibs. Allows Solid to provide information about UPnP devices on the network. This is available in several places, including KUSc. I have built kdelibs with it and it builds fine, looking at the history I think this was worked on a lot for KDE 4.7.

Ditto

Forward this too.

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QNtrack: Used by kdebase4-runtime. Network status tracking library. Provides data input for Solid network status. It is available from the Network repository, amongst other places.

This is submitted to factory but not yet accepted.

Legal will take some time.

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ffmpeg: Used by amarok, k3b, kdemultimedia4, kradio, opencv, and strigi. Headers are available, I can see if these will build with them

Same issues as libjpeg and libmms above

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lame: used by k3b and kradio. Needed for the lame mpf encoder encoder plugin. Headers are available, I can see if this will build with them.

Ditto

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mad: used by k3b. Needed for the mp3 audio decoder plugin. Headers are available, I can see if this will build with them.

Ditto

Don't know how easy to solve this, sadly :/

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FreeTDS: Used by koffice (and calligra). Open source implementation of the TDS (Tabular Data Stream) protocol. Required by Kexi Sybase Migration driver. Available from several OBS repos, including devel:libraries:c_c++.

This is submitted to factory but not yet accepted.

Legal check again.

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XPlanet: Used by kstars for rendering planets. This was in openSUSE but removed, now it is in hamradio.

I asked the opensuse-factory mailing list about this but haven't heard back. It seems it was unmaintained for a while but it recently received an upstream update.

Ignore then.

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UniCap: Used by opencv, presumably for video capture. It is in Intel:Moblin2, but hasn't been updated in a while.

I am having some problems with this. Apparently linux/videodev.h is in a different package in openSUSE:Factory. In 11.3 and 11.4 it is in kernel-devel and linux-glibc-devel, but it doesn't seem to be in either of those in factory. Does anyone here have factory installed? Could you please open the YaST2 software installer and search provides for "videodev.h" and let me know where it is? Thanks.

Check your mail reply ;) Regards. -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Hi; On 08/04/2011 10:43 AM, todd rme wrote:

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libmms: Used by kdnetwork and kradio. Needed to build KGet mms support. This is currently available from packman.

openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression. Required by the Krita JPEG 2000 filter. This is currently available from packman.

These likely have patent issues. Has anyone checked with legal to confirm this? Apparently using the packman headers is not possible. Maybe someone should talk to the developers about making it so these can be installed separately, like k3b codecs, if this isn't already possible. Then they can be distributed in packman.

I'll check the patent status.

libmms & openjpeg are good to go. home:RedDwarf/libmms would be nice to get in devel:libraries:c_c++ then we can submit it to Factory and branch to KDF. (After we remove _service, I'm CCing Cristian Morales Vega since its his package). I also see multiple openjpeg & openjpeg2 packages, one of them should be OK. Thanks! -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On 08/04/2011 03:03 PM, todd rme wrote:

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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Hi; On 08/04/2011 10:43 AM, todd rme wrote:

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libmms: Used by kdnetwork and kradio. Needed to build KGet mms support. This is currently available from packman.

openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression. Required by the Krita JPEG 2000 filter. This is currently available from packman.

These likely have patent issues. Has anyone checked with legal to confirm this? Apparently using the packman headers is not possible. Maybe someone should talk to the developers about making it so these can be installed separately, like k3b codecs, if this isn't already possible. Then they can be distributed in packman.

I'll check the patent status.

libmms& openjpeg are good to go.

Do you mean they have already been submitted, or are you asking me to submit them? And do you mean the full libraries, or just the headers.

Full packages can be submitted, as I said a good libmms package already exists. openjpeg one is more confusing because there seems to be an openjpeg2 variant. Both libraries should be submitted to devel:libraries:c_c++ and then to Factory. Then we can branch in KDF. Regards. -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On 4 August 2011 14:12, todd rme wrote:

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 08/04/2011 03:03 PM, todd rme wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ismail Donmez  wrote:

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Hi; On 08/04/2011 10:43 AM, todd rme wrote:

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>> >> libmms:  Used by kdnetwork and kradio.  Needed to build KGet mms >> support.  This is currently available from packman. >> >> openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression.  Required by >> the Krita JPEG 2000 filter.  This is currently available from >> packman. > > These likely have patent issues.  Has anyone checked with legal to > confirm this?  Apparently using the packman headers is not possible. > Maybe someone should talk to the developers about making it so these > can be installed separately, like k3b codecs, if this isn't already > possible.  Then they can be distributed in packman.

I'll check the patent status.

libmms&  openjpeg are good to go.

Do you mean they have already been submitted, or are you asking me to submit them?  And do you mean the full libraries, or just the headers.

Full packages can be submitted, as I said a good libmms package already exists. openjpeg one is more confusing because there seems to be an openjpeg2 variant.

Both libraries should be submitted to devel:libraries:c_c++ and then to Factory. Then we can branch in KDF.

Regards.

Are you sure they wouldn't be better in multimeda:libs?

I agree. Since I have to leave right now: SR#78025 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

On 4 August 2011 14:32, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

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On 4 August 2011 14:12, todd rme wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 08/04/2011 03:03 PM, todd rme wrote:

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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ismail Donmez  wrote:

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Hi; On 08/04/2011 10:43 AM, todd rme wrote: >>>> >>>> libmms:  Used by kdnetwork and kradio.  Needed to build KGet mms >>>> support.  This is currently available from packman. >>>> >>>> openjpeg: Free library for JPEG 2000 image compression.  Required by >>>> the Krita JPEG 2000 filter.  This is currently available from >>>> packman. >>> >>> These likely have patent issues.  Has anyone checked with legal to >>> confirm this?  Apparently using the packman headers is not possible. >>> Maybe someone should talk to the developers about making it so these >>> can be installed separately, like k3b codecs, if this isn't already >>> possible.  Then they can be distributed in packman. >> >> I'll check the patent status.

libmms&  openjpeg are good to go.

Do you mean they have already been submitted, or are you asking me to submit them?  And do you mean the full libraries, or just the headers.

Full packages can be submitted, as I said a good libmms package already exists. openjpeg one is more confusing because there seems to be an openjpeg2 variant.

Both libraries should be submitted to devel:libraries:c_c++ and then to Factory. Then we can branch in KDF.

Regards.

Are you sure they wouldn't be better in multimeda:libs?

I agree. Since I have to leave right now: SR#78025

It seems all the multimedia:libs maintainers are on holidays :-p

Meanwhile all the packages that require ffmpeg, lame or mad now have a %bcond_with and when required a patch to be able to use the latest ffmpeg. The only missing package is kradio, that is waiting for libmms.

The packages compiled against home:RedDwarf:fakePackman are available in home:RedDwarf:multimedia:KDE (at least for KDE_Distro_Factory_openSUSE_11.4, could take some time to propagate to Factory), with the exception of opencv that is in home:RedDwarf:multimedia. If I receive no bug reports in the following days I will add the _links in Packman.

libmms is available in multimedia:libs now. I guess it is too late to put it in 12.1, though. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:43 AM, todd rme wrote:

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 08/04/2011 10:03 AM, todd rme wrote:

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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, todd rme  wrote:

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OpenConnect: Used by NetworkManager-KDE4.  Cisco AnyConnect compatible VPN client. Needed for OpenConnect support in Network Management.  I do not see this in OBS at all.

I'm working on this.

Cool.

Getting close, i think.

Submitted back to original project. Will be submitted to factory when (and if) it is accepted.

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DCMTK: Used by koffice (and calligra).  Required for processing DICOM structured reports.  This is available from several home: repositories.

I think I am getting close to having this working.

Good!

I submitted this to KDF. It needs to come from an official repo, I am not aware of a better fit for it. Once it is accepted I will submit it to factory.

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XPlanet: Used by kstars for rendering planets.  This was in openSUSE but removed, now it is in hamradio.

I asked the opensuse-factory mailing list about this but haven't heard back.  It seems it was unmaintained for a while but it recently received an upstream update.

Ignore then.

This has been accepted into the Education project, and then submitted to Factory.

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UniCap: Used by opencv, presumably for video capture.  It is in Intel:Moblin2, but hasn't been updated in a while.

I am having some problems with this.  Apparently linux/videodev.h is in a different package in openSUSE:Factory.  In 11.3 and 11.4 it is in kernel-devel and linux-glibc-devel, but it doesn't seem to be in either of those in factory.  Does anyone here have factory installed? Could you please open the YaST2 software installer and search provides for "videodev.h" and let me know where it is?  Thanks.

Check your mail reply ;)

Working on this now.

I submitted this back to the original project. I will submit it to factory as soon as the changes are accepted. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:10, Ismail Donmez wrote:

On 08/04/2011 10:03 AM, todd rme wrote:

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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, todd rme wrote:

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Here is a list of missing dependencies from KDE:Distro:Factory builds: <snip> mobile-broadband-provider-info: Used by NetworkManager-KDE4. Database of mobile broadband service providers. Needed for Mobile Connection Wizard support in Broadband Modem Management. This is currently available from packman.

Already in factory

Do we need a Requires for plasmoid-networkmanagement?

Urgs! Please do NOT. Making it a "Requires" would mean the normal Desktops get it too. "Recomment" is ok, add it to the Laptop / Mobil - Scheme as a "Requires" is ok, too. A KDE Desktop without it schould be possible without hassle. Maybe the "Requires" should be in the package that "Provides" Broadband Modems, and no where else. Just my 2ct, Yamaban out. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:31, Александр Мелентьев wrote:

2011/8/5 Yamaban :

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mobile-broadband-provider-info:  Used by NetworkManager-KDE4. Database of mobile broadband service providers.  Needed for Mobile Connection Wizard support in Broadband Modem Management.  This is currently available from packman.

Already in factory

Do we need a Requires for plasmoid-networkmanagement?

Urgs! Please do NOT. Making it a "Requires" would mean the normal Desktops get it too.

And what makes you think that desktops should not get it? I believe users should get every possible way to be online from every machine they own.

Ok. Let's be very clear: Not everybody has a desktop with a 2TB+ Storage. Some of us want to run a small box like a "Asus EEE Box" or similar and thus are limited in terms of Storage, RAM and CPU power, nonetheless we'd like to run a fresh-of-the-press DE like KDE SC 4.7 atm. So in terms of this, the package "mobile-broadband-provider-info" should only needed by any package that has a direct need for it, like the one that provides "mobile-broadband-modem". No WiFi, BlueZ, Ethernet, ATM, DSL package can win anything beyond wasted space from the package "mobile-broadband-provider-info". If you install a mobil broadband modem (GSM/UMTS), then to Require the package mobile-broadband-provider-info makes sense. Anything else is wasted resources. I can't find a rule anywhere in OpenSUSE.org that wasteing resources is wanted or needed. This is not Microsoft or Apple, this is Linux-OS by OpenSUSE. Have a nice weekend, Yamaban.