March 2010 - openSUSE KDE - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-kde] Call for testing: Cross-distro building of KDE packages in OBS
by Lubos Lunak 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hello, I'm looking for people who'd be interested in testing a tool that helps packaging applications in the build service. If you have no experience with packaging, that's not an excuse but a perfect qualification :). Comments from people who do have experience are valued too. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Build_Service/Cross-distro has a HOWTO explaining the process. It is not very extensive, it's right to the point, but I hope it's sufficient. In case there are problems, try consulting http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service or other wiki pages, or ask. I have packaged a couple of various KDE apps in home:llunak:kdetest, including the tool used for this itself, so it is possible to use those as a reference. There are no manual modifications to any of those packages besides providing INFO file if necessary. If you are interested, follow the HOWTO and try to package e.g. something from kde-apps.org or kde-look.org . I'd be especially interested in: - various build and packaging errors caused by the tool (there is also the possibility that the application tarball itself is broken) - wrong or missing mapping of package names (e.g. from the tarball to package names or between distributions) - any other problems that would hinder the usage of the tool for easy packaging of KDE apps Please mention the project and package name if you report any problems (report them simply as replies here). The tool is not perfect (nor can it be), so it is aimed to be used only for the initial package creation. It is possible to manually modify the generated files afterwards. I intend to create another tool to also help doing e.g. version updates. Thanks -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Kmail distribution lists
by 911 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

Hello SuSE KDE people, Running 11.2, 4.4. Kmail 1.13.0 Can't send any mail with a Distribution list because Kmail keeps adding an @Easystreet at the end of the list name and the server will not accept it. (Easystreet is the name of my computer) I am pretty sure that this was working OK until I enabled Nepomuk/Akonadi/Strigi whatever. How do I make this right again? Ideas? Can I go to wherever these apps put things and delete whatever they have done? Could that work? I have already disabled Nepomuk/Strigi because it kept popping up messages that it couldn't do this or that. The addressbook in Kmail is also broken or "optimized"? You can no longer edit it. You know, things like Family, Business, Friends, Distribution List, etc. I know, I know, the Devs are trying to give us these great indexing/integration tools but it just doesn't work and gives people like me all kinds of grief. Yell at me, tell me I don't understand, but please help. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Vanilla KDE in OpenSuse
by Dotan Cohen 06 Mar '10

06 Mar '10

I have been using another KDE distro for some time (Kubuntu). I will probably be back on OpenSuse 11.3 comes out, but I would like to have KDE as close to vanilla KDE as possible. Is this easily done in OpenSuse? How? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Icons machen einen "knicks"...
by Mathias Homann 05 Mar '10

05 Mar '10

Hallo Liste, ich hab da grad mal ein ganz seltsames Problemchen... Immer wenn ich ein icon auf meinem Desktop anklick, machen alle anderen Icons so einen kleinen "Hopser"... als ob sie Schluckauf hätten oder so... Wie krieg ich das abgestellt? Laufen tut hier ne 11.2 mit KDE 4.4.1 aus den KDE4:Factory repositories. Seltsam ist auch dass das nur auf meinem Laptop passiert... Aufm desktop rechner nicht. Verwendete Icons: oxygen (icon animationen hab ich schon abgestellt, hopsen tun sie immer noch 0.o) Vorschläge? danke, MH -- gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] Krunner crash / performance issues
by Tejas Guruswamy 04 Mar '10

04 Mar '10

Continuing a discussion that was on the main list, but is more relevant to this one, On 01/03/10 16:59, Will Stephenson wrote: > I guess that it's crashing. KRunner uses multiple 'Runners' running in > their > own threads. If you click the wrench icon at the left side of the > KRunner > popup, you can disable individual runners. Could you try to disable > individual runners (binary search?) to determine which one is dying? > > You can also restart krunner in gdb in a shell to get a backtrace of the > crashing runner with > killall krunner && gdb --args krunner --nocrashhandler --nofork > then 'run', then when it dies 'bt', copy that, finally 'quit' to get > out of > gdb, killing the dead and suspended krunner process. I tried to test some different runners and I learnt a couple of things: * Some runners don't seem to work at all for me (as in, give no results even as the only runner loaded, for terms I know should give results). + Contacts (maybe because I have migrated my contacts to akonadi?) + Control Audio Player (tested against Amarok) + Kill (lots of debug output, no actual output) I don't use sessions so didn't have anything to test the various *-session runners against. Also, the nepomuk runner didn't give me any results but I think that's because I have strigi disabled atm. * The Windows krunner "close", "activate", work, but it crashes reliably when "shade", "min"/"max", "keep above"/"keep below" is used, taking down all of krunner * Under stress, the nepomuk krunner seems to crash according to the debug output, but restarts without bringing all of krunner down * The web-lookup runners (wikipedia, wikitravel, techbase) take a while to return any results (and in the debug output is a message saying "runner is too slow, putting it on the back burner.") - probably to be expected. With the following runners loaded krunner only crashed once in several days of use, was responsive to typing and quick to open and close: + Locations + Spell Checker + Places + Applications + Command Line + Bookmarks + Desktop Sessions + Calculator + Kopete contact runner + PowerDevil + Unit Converter + Plasma Desktop shell + KGet + Kate sessions + Konqueror sessions + Konsole sessions + Web browser history + Konqueror web shortcuts The one time I managed to get krunner to crash completely in this configuration was after about 15mins of constantly opening, typing a few things, closing, loading a new runner, unloading a runner. This didn't happen reliably. Is the attached backtrace any use? Control Audio player is very bad, and causes krunner to open+close very slowly / return results very slowly. Could be because I have a ~2000 track Amarok collection it is trying to search, but controlling amarok (play/pause) doesn't work either. However I don't see an actual crash, things just seem to stall ... So the summary of this email is try disabling the "Control Audio player", "Windows", and web-lookup runners and see if things work better/faster. Regards, Tejas

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE KDE Team Meeting - Thursday 4th Mar, 17:00 UTC
by Lubos Lunak 03 Mar '10

03 Mar '10

The next openSUSE KDE Team meeting will be held tomorrow, Thursday 4th March, at 17:00 UTC. The current list of scheduled topics is: * old action items * status report * calls for testing * Q&A, misc Further items are welcome; please add them http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Meetings Please use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=4&month=3&year=201… to get the time of the meeting in your time zone. The meeting will happen in #opensuse-kde IRC channel on irc.freenode.net You are welcome to join and participate! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-kde] openSUSE 11.3 KDE branding - forever green?
by Will Stephenson 02 Mar '10

02 Mar '10

I had an interesting conversation with the Oxygen team at Tokamak4 here last week. They are the guys who did the openSUSE Air branding for 11.2 as part of the upstream branding collaboration started by KDE. I was asking them whether they'd like to do the 11.3 branding again and the answer was 'Just say the word.' but then we started talking about the colour. It seems that the design used in 11.3 was a real love it or hate it thing. The Oxygen guys pointed out to me that of all the primary colours, green is the one that LCD monitors have the hardest time representing accurately. If you look at any monitor gamut diagram, it's always green that is weakest. The result is that greenish designs look great on the high end external monitors favoured by designers, digital photographers and gadget freaks like me, and look like many other things that are not great on lesser displays, which includes the majority of laptop displays. Other colours display much more reliably. So how would you feel if we had a non-green release this time? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] openSUSE 11.3 KDE branding - forever green?
by S.Kemter 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

Hi, > I had an interesting conversation with the Oxygen team at Tokamak4 here last > week. They are the guys who did the openSUSE Air branding for 11.2 as part of > the upstream branding collaboration started by KDE. > > I was asking them whether they'd like to do the 11.3 branding again and the > answer was 'Just say the word.' but then we started talking about the colour. > It seems that the design used in 11.3 was a real love it or hate it thing. > The Oxygen guys pointed out to me that of all the primary colours, green is > the one that LCD monitors have the hardest time representing accurately. If > you look at any monitor gamut diagram, it's always green that is weakest. The > result is that greenish designs look great on the high end external monitors > favoured by designers, digital photographers and gadget freaks like me, and > look like many other things that are not great on lesser displays, which > includes the majority of laptop displays. Other colours display much more > reliably. > > So how would you feel if we had a non-green release this time? Will who ever said to Nuno make it green? I am sure jimmacs solar theme for the Gnome side isnt really green. And now the funny thing jimmac and me we are both not lucky with the differnce between the gnome side and the kde side in 11.2 Yeah after an (not really green) solar bootsplash comes nunos green air. Jimmac like to wait for 11.3 with what comes KDE out and go after that to make a theme and for this other things waiting like the theming for LXDM So maybe we should setup a little IRC meeting between all partys so that work can go on. br gnokii > > Will -- more http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs http://www.xing.com/go/invita/11208336 http://twitter.com/karltuxstadt http://identi.ca/karltuxstadt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-kde] New working and existing! icon for myComputer.desktop
by Johannes Obermayr 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 22:13:08 schrieb Tejas Guruswamy: > On 27/02/10 21:03, Johannes Obermayr wrote: >> Am Samstag 27 Februar 2010 21:36:58 schrieb Markus: >> >>> "mycomp" is a SUSE-specific icon which, btw, isn't even placed in the oxygen >>> folder, but in highcolor: >>> file:///usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/mycomp.png >>> (if you use openSUSE right now, you should be able to open it) >>> >> Which package? >> >> $ /usr/share/icons> find -name *mycomp* >> $ /usr/share/icons> >> >> On all my systems "myComputer" (= "Arbeitsplatz" -> German) are without icons >> ... >> >> And dependencies are also OK ... >> <snip> >> tejas@hobbes:/usr/share/icons> find . -name "*mycomp*" | xargs rpm -qf | >> sort -u >> kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE-11.2-60.4.x86_64 >> >> make sure you've not got branding-upstream installed instead That is it. I have *-branding-upstream installed for all packages and prefer it because of "ksnapshotting" for upstream translations (docs) ... But in this case we have only two possibilities: 1. Changing http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kdebase4-opensuse/blobs/master/config-files/u…: - Icon=mycomp + Icon=computer 2. Set a dependency in kdebase4-opensuse (spec-file): + Requires: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE I prefer first solution. Thanks. Johannes

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