January 2011 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Duplicates of mbuffer
by Pascal Bleser 23 Jan '11

23 Jan '11

mbuffer is both in Base:System and network:utilities (I maintain the latter), with openSUSE:Factory linking the one from Base:System. Could we merge those ? (replace everything with _link except one ;)). There are no maintainers defined for Base:System/mbuffer (and Base:System is half of this mailing-list ;)), which is why I'm sending the mail here and not to the maintainer(s). On a side note, there is a much more recent version in network:utilities as compared to Base:System and Factory (13 upstream releases in-between, with bugfixes and more features). If no one minds, I would suggest linking Base:System/mbuffer to network:utilities/mbuffer cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM XI: 5 + 6 Feb 2011, http://fosdem.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
by Stephan Kulow 22 Jan '11

22 Jan '11

Hi, I don't want to release Milestone6 as it is right now (build1023). There are various issues blocking: - /etc/mtab still is not right (broken by yast during installation bnc#665437) - Artwork is a bad mixture and this is the last milestone (bnc#665439) - kernel on i586 still acting up (bnc#660464) minor issues (for M6): - the progress bar of the live cd is not moving between 16-92% (bnc#665413) - the live cd does not boot into the kernel (kexec broken?) - the kde live cd crawls heavily I hope that we fix the mtab one quickly and perhaps there is artwork left to submit, but the kernel one is pretty ugly and there isn't any easy fix at the moment. Hopes are high though that we can release it next week. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OS 11.4 M6?
by Thomas Taylor 22 Jan '11

22 Jan '11

Hi all; Has milestone 6 been released in full DVD install mode yet? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSuSE 11.3 x86_64 openSUSE 11.4M5 x86_64 KDE 4.5.00, FF 3.6.8 claws-mail 3.7.6 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Severe Problems with X - ATI Mobility Radeon HD3400
by Sankar P 22 Jan '11

22 Jan '11

Running factory I have run into a lot of problems with factory on T400. The machine just shows a blank screen after passing the initial stage. gdm never gets loaded. If I boot via failsafe mode, the boot stops at the console level, then I manually have to start the network and xdm service. In failsafe mode, once the gnome-screensaver kicks in (idle, machine locked etc.), the contents of the screen are shown overlapping with the screensaver. Everything works fine with a 11.3 livecd in this machine (including desktop effects). I did a `zypper dup` and none of the existing users play video files with sound (VLC, Totem). If I create a new user, VLC plays with sound. gnome-panel consistently crashes for all the old users. It works fine for new users though. If I can get the debuginfo rpm for gnome-panel, I can give the stacktrace of the crash. What debug information do you require for this ? I have only factory in the repositories list and nothing else. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] fontconfig: man pages severely out of date
by Werner LEMBERG 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

[fontconfig-devel 2.8.0-16.2] Please trigger an update of the fontconfig man pages! What's in fontconfig-devel doesn't reflect the actual version. For example, the man page of `fc-match' dates 16-Oct-2006 in openSuSE; in particular, it misses the option `-a' introduced in a more recent version of fontconfig. Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Problems for non-IT persons
by Parshwa Murdia 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hi, I am ***ABSOLUTELY NEW*** in the world of linux and IT. Someone told me to use Linux despite of Windows. I thought and yes it is more secured that is what I know. Now when I searched for free Linux, I got numerous OS, probably distros, what is called here. I am highly confused as to with what start with and know the basic things. As my job is different but today without computers nothing is there and the world is going to be digital, so I thought to take suggestions of the Linux users, experts and developers. Open SUSE name comes at the first page of google search, or probably at any other search engine. Now my requirement: Audio-video conversion, watching movies, listening music, taking prints, secured banks transactions, multimedia, image editing, CD/DVD burning, and of course net surfing and emailing. All this I could do in Windows GUI, but I felt some reason to switch to Linux. Now what I heard and got to know is that there are numerous OS in Linux itself. People say Fedora is highly highly secured and good, yes it could be but is having a very frequent update cycle and much more technical in nature. For Ubuntu (Long Term Support), I am quite confused. Cent OS is stable but is like Fedora itself, so is a little typical, what I guess. Scientific Linux might be good. But my request is to let me know if Open SUSE is okay for a novice, especially for the person who is not from softwares but want to use a linux distro. Secondly, I guess (but don't know) if it would easily fulfill my purposes without going into the core technical details. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Problems for non-IT persons
by Parshwa Murdia 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hi, I am ***ABSOLUTELY NEW*** in the world of linux and IT. Someone told me to use Linux despite of Windows. I thought and yes it is more secured that is what I know. Now when I searched for free Linux, I got numerous OS, probably distros, what is called here. I am highly confused as to with what start with and know the basic things. As my job is different but today without computers nothing is there and the world is going to be digital, so I thought to take suggestions of the Linux users, experts and developers. Open SUSE name comes at the first page of google search, or probably at any other search engine. Now my requirement: Audio-video conversion, watching movies, listening music, taking prints, secured banks transactions, multimedia, image editing, CD/DVD burning, and of course net surfing and emailing. All this I could do in Windows GUI, but I felt some reason to switch to Linux. Now what I heard and got to know is that there are numerous OS in Linux itself. People say Fedora is highly highly secured and good, yes it could be but is having a very frequent update cycle and much more technical in nature. For Ubuntu (Long Term Support), I am quite confused. Cent OS is stable but is like Fedora itself, so is a little typical, what I guess. Scientific Linux might be good. But my request is to let me know if Open SUSE is okay for a novice, especially for the person who is not from softwares but want to use a linux distro. Secondly, I guess (but don't know) if it would easily fulfill my purposes without going into the core technical details. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] wxGTK = wxWidgets - changes in packaging
by Stanislav Brabec 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

Hallo. I did a big change of wxGTK package. It consists on rename of wxGTK package to wxWidgets and splitting to four separated packages (plus one new). wxGTK -> wxWidgets + wxWidgets-wxcontainer + wxWidgets-ansi + python-wxWidgets wxGTK-doc->wiWidgets-docs If your package exists in Factory, you need just to accept my submit request and send your package to Factory. Here are details what is happening: The new wxWidgets package packages each library separately. Depending on the devel package you will pick, it will link against the particular wxWidgets ABI variant. wxWidgets-devel with STL interface and Unicode is a new ABI recommended by upstream. wxWidgets-wxcontainer-devel with the old wxcontainer interface and Unicode support is now deprecated. wxWidgets-ansi-devel with the old wxcontainer interface and without Unicode support is now strongly deprecated. (No package in Factory links against that any more.) python-wxWidgets is now based on the STL variant. Other variants are not available. You can also find wxWidgets-2_9 in the X11:wxWidgets OBS project repositories. Upstream did a bad thing - depending on configure options the ABI changes but the library name does not. It causes many ugly clashes. That is why I moved libraries to a dedicated directory, so any package could depend on a particular library. Well, RPM does not like that and does not understand idea that more libraries have the same SONAME and binary picks the correct one using RPATH. That is why each wxWidgets based package must fix BuildRequires and include two lines to fix dependencies: %define _use_internal_dependency_generator 0 %define __find_requires %wx_requires -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +49 911 7405384547 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OBS 2.2 got deployed on api.opensuse.org
by Adrian Schröter 20 Jan '11

20 Jan '11

After the last unsuccessfull tries it looks like have catched all performance problems finally. So api.opensuse.org is running OBS 2.2 (not yet released) now. The only remaining regression, I am aware of atm is that osc build with -- local-package option is not working. I will look into that in next minutes. Another big difference is now the behaviour of submit and devel change requests were you have no maintainer permissions in the source. In the past you were simply not allowed to create such a request. OBS 2.2 is allowing to create such an request, but adds the maintainer of the source package as reviewer of the request. This means concrete, when you see something, either a new package or and updated package, which should go to another project like openSUSE:Factory, you can ask now to submit it via such a request. But the original maintainer still can accept or decline this request. I hope this fullfills the discussed needs which got formely discussed. Unfortunatly, neither osc nor the webui can handle these reviews nicely yet. We will work on this these days as well. Have fun and please report if you see regressions with the new api. thanks adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian(a)suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] RFNP: multitail
by Pascal Bleser 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

(RFNP = Request For New Package ;D) I'd like to push "multitail" as a new package into factory, from server:monitoring (I also linked it into utilities). -------------------------------------------- multitail (server:monitoring) - SR 58826 -------------------------------------------- Multitail is basically a tail on steroids, a must-have in any sysadmin's toolbox. To quote upstream: "MultiTail lets you view one or multiple files like the original tail program. The difference is that it creates multiple windows on your console (with ncurses). It can also monitor wildcards: if another file matching the wildcard has a more recent modification date, it will automatically switch to that file. That way you can, for example, monitor a complete directory of files. Merging of 2 or even more logfiles is possible. It can also use colors while displaying the logfiles (through regular expressions), for faster recognition of what is important and what not. It can also filter lines (again with regular expressions). It has interactive menus for editing given regular expressions and deleting and adding windows. One can also have windows with the output of shell scripts and other software. When viewing the output of external software, MultiTail can mimic the functionality of tools like 'watch' and such." First revision is 2010-02-14, although the package was maintained in the Packman repository since a lot longer. The project is in maintenance mode, with very few releases, but still active nevertheless. Bugtracker: n/a Mailing-list: http://keetweej.vanheusden.com/multitail/ URL: http://www.vanheusden.com/multitail/ License: GPLv2 or later Dependencies: * ncurses-devel cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM XI: 5 + 6 Feb 2011, http://fosdem.org

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[opensuse-factory] GDM Problems with factory
by Sankar P 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

I had a 11.3 laptop. I added http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ to the zypper repositories and did a `zypper dup`. Ever since that, when I boot my machine, the gdm screen does not come up. If I boot into the failsafe kernel, then I get a commandline and then, I need to manually start the services of dbus, hal and network. after this if I do a rcxdm start the gdm comes up. However, the screen resolution is very very less and so everything appears big. Everything was working fine in 11.3 in the same machine and most recently with Tumbleweed as well. What files can I provide for debugging ? Thanks -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] /etc/sysconfig/ settings ignored on alternate boots
by Felix Miata 19 Jan '11

19 Jan '11

x86 Sempron/VIA chipset MGA video 1M RAM After today's dup (last dup'd about 5 days ago): 1-neither auto nor boot nor ifplugd for STARTMODE resulted in ifup eth0 being successfully executed by ifup-eth0 on alternate boots. The only available network connection on the system is or ever will be is eth0. 2-KBD_RATE & KBD_DELAY settings (20 & 250) in keyboard were ignored on alternate subsequent boots. 3-rpcbind was only started on boots where eth0 was successfully started These are only what I've noticed. NetworkManager is not installed. SuSEfirewall2 is not installed. *bluetoo* and *wirele* are not installed. zypper in -f sysvinit-tools and sysvinit seemed to fix these problems, until I figured out these problems only appear on a l t e r n a t e b o o t s (over more than 4 cycle pairs of testing)! WIERD!!! Ideas? -- "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver." Proverbs 16:16 NKJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Rescue program on dvd
by Carlos E. R. 18 Jan '11

18 Jan '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I know the rescue option in the dvd had to be dropped. Too problematic, and no maintainer. Could some of it be "rescued"? The thing that fails most is grub. Just a repair grub, perhaps a repair missing kernel/initrd? Once the system boots, the user should be able to repair the rest (hope). :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyodsMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W3mACeL4xQWJevZF3nzSzbYWKtz3dP yQMAnjtrUrfJRGrGfoyEouiJN6Q2XH37 =T2Uo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Nvidia, Tumbleweed and UDBA (Universal Driver Build Assistant)
by Boris Manojlovic 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Dear all, What is UDBA: UDBA is my project which should help all users that are using Tumbleweed as updates source and are missing binary driver packages for some of non free packages as for instance nvidia-gfx. As all non free driver packages are prepared on OBS repositories it is easy for advanced users to build binary packages from them using osc util locally. But regular users are left behind and waiting for regular release cycles of openSUSE which really is unacceptable from user using Tumbleweed repo. So there is where my project (from this moment simply called UDBA) comes in. It is front end for standard rpmbuild process that users are probably not willing to use (or I'm probably wrong :) ). UDBA is build on YaST framework and as such have frontends for Qt, GTK and curses by default. Probably webyast would work too but i didn't had time nor need for this to test. Where to download it from: To test it please download it from my home repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bmanojlovic:/UDBA/openSUSE_… Needed packages: yast2-udba udba-nvidia-gfxG02 (for nvidia and tested to be working) How to use it: open YaST -> Miscellaneous -> UDBA and look at screen shots bellow. It will ask you to install required packages needed for building rpms What is result of it: Curses UI can be seen on screen shots at: http://bojanka.net/udba/ and generated files from my machine are: /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/x11-video-nvidiaG02-260.19.29-1.x86_64.rpm /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop-260.19.29_k2.6.37-1.x86_64.rpm /srv/repos/nvidia-gfxG02/x86_64/nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-default-260.19.29_k2.6.37-1.x86_64.rpm Where to find source: This project is VERY much work in progress. Source code can be found on github at: https://github.com/bmanojlovic/yast2-udba Bugs: Too many to count or show them here... Not working for any packages currently except video drivers as it is hardcoded in /usr/lib/udba/bin/udba-builder script... Unfortunately current ati-fglrxG02 is not building with 2.6.37 kernel so I'm sorry ati users. (It does build /srv/repos/ati-fglrxG02/x86_64/x11-video-fglrxG02-8.801-1.x86_64.rpm user space package tho) Boris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 2011-01-16 factory-tested status
by Bernhard M. Wiedemann 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, openSUSE-Factory has seen a many updates in recent days, certainly because Milestone 6 of 6 is coming this week. Testing on http://openqa.opensuse.org/ remains interesting. The rate is currently constant at 36 testruns per day, but might increase next week due to new hardware generously sponsored by B1-Systems. There is still https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=660464 randomly affecting many 32bit testruns on KVM (and probably still VirtualBox). However, the very same 2.6.37-kernel works on my two Laptops (except for a panic on suspend-to-RAM). VMs are an important platform for testers/users, so this should not be taken lightly. The other new issue first observed 2011-01-14 12:50 with repo-Build0898 is that /etc/mtab contains only one or two lines, causing df in the "textinfo" test to produce less output. Since this did not have more obvious consequences and was not auto-checked, it slipped through into the factory-tested repo. I have now added a mtab test to make this failure more obvious. The test's log-files now include a list of installed rpms, so it will be easier to trace down which package/update caused an issue. also new: - - XFCE installs are now launching GNOME instead of icewm by default even though DEFAULT_WM is properly set to startxfce4 - - two small kontact issues filed upstream - - upgrade from 11.1 needs some manual work with kernel-default* recently fixed: - - Xorg/gdm with gnomedevel started working today - - firefox4 no more segfaulting on LXDE/XFCE - - most of the other things on the previous list other improvements: - - the results web-interface now got a "ignore boring results" checkbox to hide results that likely only showed known issues. - - there is now a openqabot posting new test results on #opensuse-testing - - on 2011-01-06 (a public holiday in Nuremberg) I had taken some hours to adapt the OS-autoinst framework to testrun Debian and Fedora systems (of course, the results are nowhere as nice as with openSUSE ;-) http://www3.zq1.de/fedora/Fedora-14-i386-netinst.iso.ogv http://www3.zq1.de/debian/cdimage.debian.org/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.i… Ciao Bernhard M. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0zbBkACgkQSTYLOx37oWT/1gCdGcVyOW07AnUQVc7chg7mW0nR iREAoPE/uIS8fP2z2M2jH/Dd32xIfNun =hL2F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: rdev missing from util-linux in factory / thumbleweed
by Greg Freemyer 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Mark Lord <mlord(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On 11-01-16 03:04 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: >> >> cc: Adding opensuse-factory >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Lord<mlord(a)pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 11-01-12 12:32 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: >>>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> I just got a problem report about wiper.sh needing /usr/sbin/rdev. > > .. >> >> If you need to depend on it, maybe you need to add the above logic to >> hdparm (or create a small standalone utility inside your package)? > > Thanks. > > How does this look to you for a bash rdev equivalent: > > ## Try and determine the device name associated with the root filesystem. > ## This is nearly impossible to do in any perfect fashion. > ## > ## do_rdev *usually* works, but on some distros it may only find > "/dev/root", > ## and "/dev/root" is not usually a real device. We leave it like that > for now, > ## because that's the pattern such systems also use in /proc/mounts. > ## Later, at time of use, we'll try harder to find the real rootdev. > ## > ## Redhat/Fedora no longer have an rdev command. Silly them. > ## So we now implement it internally, below. > ## > STAT=/usr/bin/stat > FIND=/usr/bin/find > function match_rdev() { > rdev="" > rdevno="$1" > while read bdev ; do > if [ "$rdev" = "" -o "$bdev" != "/dev/root" ]; then > devno=$($STAT -c "0x%t%02T" "$bdev") > [ "$devno" = "$rdevno" ] && rdev="$bdev" > fi > done > echo -n "$rdev" > } > rootdev=$($FIND /dev/ -type b 2>/dev/null | match_rdev $($STAT -c "0x%D" > '/')) > [ $verbose -gt 0 ] && echo "rootdev=$rootdev" > > That's what I'm intending to replace rdev with in wiper.sh v3.3. > But I don't have any installs here that use "/dev/root" to re-test with. > Gotta hunt around some more, I guess.. > Mark, I'm not familiar with /dev/root. On my opensuse 11.3 machine, its a symlink to /dev/sda5. I ran your script and it echos "rootdev=/dev/sda5". My fstab has: LABEL=root / ext3 acl,relatime,user_xattr 1 1 I could change that to have /dev/root in the first column and reboot if you think it a useful test for you, but I suspect you need something booting from a LVM setup for /dev/root to be a meaningful problem? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Rescue program on dvd
by jdd 17 Jan '11

17 Jan '11

Le 09/10/2010 12:40, Dave Plater a écrit : > On 10/06/2010 11:31 PM, jdd wrote: >>> I will try something on studio :-) trying to do the late work, I built a minimal rescue cd: http://susestudio.com/appliance/edit/265519 (name jdd_rescue) when I boot (on virtualbox) with this cd, I get the normal terminal. I have the network and so could launch yast and install kexec. but with the command line given on bugzilla https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432929 I just get a black screen. I yet have to test some of the data given below (just as reference), ,thanks to dave Plater > the simplest is kexec -l /path to boot/vmlinuz --initrd=initrd --append= > <This is for your command line kernel options ie. "resume=/dev/sda1 > root=/dev/sda3", written exactly the same as in your bootloader>. > The kernel to be started in this case is the default one vmlinuz but it > and initrd can be specified with versions. > Second stage is - kexec -e which starts the kernel. > I've tried this from a console in the 11.2 installation system from dvd > and in the rescue system. Before kexec you have to mount /boot from the > installed system. The kexec options --append= could be extracted from > the bootloader if it exists otherwise the script needs to find root and > swap. > See man (8) kexec work on progress jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] rdev missing from util-linux in factory / thumbleweed
by Greg Freemyer 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

cc: Adding opensuse-factory On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Lord <mlord(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On 11-01-12 12:32 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote: >> >> Mark, >> >> I just got a problem report about wiper.sh needing /usr/sbin/rdev. >> >> That seems to have been deprecated for a while. Googling >> "usr/sbin/rdev" I see the same issue raised for several distros. >> >> Are you working on a hdparm update / patch to address that? > > Thus far it seems to only be an issue on the Redhat RPM based distros, > eg. Fedora and Suse. Most others still have rdev. > > Ideally, I'd like to remove the dependency, as even when rdev is present > it does not always return useful info (eg. "/dev/root" is NOT useful). > > But I have yet to figure out what to replace it with. > Depending upon non-kernel files (eg. /etc/mtab) is not wise here, > because any screw-up means total loss of the user's root partition. > > Any idea how to determine the underlying device number (major,minor) > for the root filesystem ? > ==> Johannes You must be getting util-linux from Tumbleweed or factory which is why your missing rdev. ==> Mark, rdev was removed from util-linux in May 2010. Apparently it is in openSUSE 11.3, but not in current openSUSE factory code which will be released as openSUSE 11.4 in March. I assume you will have repeated issues with all new distros if you depend on rdev. see http://www.spinics.net/lists/util-linux-ng/msg03170.html It should be easy enough for openSUSE to patch rdev back into util-linux, but it seems like the wrong solution. The key code is fairly small: stat("/",&s); printf("%s /\n", find_dev(s.st_dev)); Where find_dev() is: === /* Earlier rdev fails on /dev/ida/c0d0p1 so we allow for recursion in /dev. -- Paul Clements */ /* In fact devfs needs deep recursion. */ static int find_dev_recursive(char *dirnamebuf, int number) { DIR *dp; struct dirent *dir; struct stat s; int dirnamelen = 0; if ((dp = opendir(dirnamebuf)) == NULL) die("opendir"); dirnamelen = strlen(dirnamebuf); while ((dir = readdir(dp)) != NULL) { if (!strcmp(dir->d_name, ".") || !strcmp(dir->d_name, "..")) continue; if (dirnamelen + 1 + strlen(dir->d_name) > PATH_MAX) continue; dirnamebuf[dirnamelen] = '/'; strcpy(dirnamebuf+dirnamelen+1, dir->d_name); if (lstat(dirnamebuf, &s) < 0) continue; if ((s.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFBLK && s.st_rdev == number) return 1; if ((s.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFDIR && find_dev_recursive(dirnamebuf, number)) return 1; } dirnamebuf[dirnamelen] = 0; closedir(dp); return 0; } static char * find_dev(int number) { static char name[PATH_MAX+1]; if (!number) return "Boot device"; strcpy(name, "/dev"); if (find_dev_recursive(name, number)) return name; sprintf(name, "0x%04x", number); return name; } === If you need to depend on it, maybe you need to add the above logic to hdparm (or create a small standalone utility inside your package)? What is your suggestion for openSUSE. Wait for you to eliminate the need for rdev from hdparm (wiper.sh), or patch it back into util-linux for now? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Nvidia
by Roelof Wobben 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

Hello Is it correct that if I want to use Nvidia for compositing I have to make the drivers and kernel by source. Roelof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Warning: don't install aaa_base-11.4-32.1
by Hans-Peter Holler 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664692 > 1. lots of messages on boot: > getpt: No such file or directory > could not get pty for <servicename> > 2. no bash in konsole and these messages in ~/.xsession-errors > konsole(2398)/kdeui (kdelibs): Attempt to use QAction "" with > KXMLGUIFactory! konsole(2398)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't > open a pseudo teletype konsole(2398) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: > Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. zypper al "aaa_base*" will lock the packages, so you can "safely" run a zypper dup. Good Luck, Hans-Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] TOMOYO Integration
by Stephan Kleine 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi, can we please enable TOMOYO for 11.4 in the kernel. AFAIK there is no downside if it doesn't get used and it would spare people who want to use it recompiling the kernel just for the sake of enabling it in the config. See also: * https://features.opensuse.org/310292 * http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/comparison.html.en regards, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] desktop filename changed for Firefox (and Thunderbird)
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi, just a heads up as it might affect desktop environments: I just submitted a change for Firefox (and Thunderbird) which renames the desktop files MozillaFirefox.desktop -> firefox.desktop MozillaThunderbird.desktop -> thunderbird.desktop This was needed for gnome-shell apparently (bnc#664211) and makes sense anyway although it needs changes for preconfiguration of our desktops and will hurt upgraders a bit. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Blender again
by Donn Washburn 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hey Group; Why is it that openSuSE insists on supplying the wrong Python 2.7 when you are shipping the recent version of Blender 2.56 which requires Python 3.1 or greater. This has happened twice and I have seen this problem before. Once I fixed it by compiling and installing Python 3.1. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] automatic pulling from devel projects into factory
by Lars Müller 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi, from the recent discussions and from our experience at the network:samba openSUSE Build Service project we know that it's useful to have a mechanism to automatic submit a project to openSUSE:Factory. A good example is network:samba:STABLE. It's our goal to offer only STABLE code from this repository. While on the other hand it's a moving target as openSUSE:Factory is. From time to time it happens that one of us updates n:s:STABLE but doesn't submit request it into oS:Factory. That's bad in particular if it happens close to a code freeze. And from the recent discussion on this lists it sounds like such a feature might even be of help to other projects. I suggest to make this an optional configuration setting to save people one potential superfluous step. The default could stay the same way as it is now. This would even allow to enable and disable the mechanism to the project maintainers. As soon as our desperate factory janitor aka coolo had to pull a package the fifth time he might turn into the factory dictator and enable the suggested automatic pull. :) Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

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[opensuse-factory] RFC: do we want all locales?
by Stephan Kulow 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi, I have this bug assigned to me about missing locales: bug 659001. The bug is basically that some GNOME applications have translations for locales that we lack otherwise and so the GNOME packages have to handle them separately. The bug itself would be easy to fix, but I wonder if it's a good idea to package all locales existant or if we shouldn't limit ourselves somewhere. I mean, I have no good measure where this limit should be, but I feel that it's not wise to package all files in existance. Take e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_language (from the bug report it's in gnome-do and transmission). It has 1.85 Million total speakers and 5 dialects. It's impossible to know how many of those use computers regularly and how many of those would use linux (at least one of them translated GNOME though). But the main problem I see is: just having gnome-do won't help anyone to use the computer in the native language. So I would think that we don't gain much user experience but make the installs larger for everyone. So I would suggest that we introduce a macro that removes all languages not in filesystems, so we can still add new languages if the cost/benefit ratio exceeds a limit. What do you think? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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