July 2007 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] modules gobble disk space with built kernel
by Felix Miata 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

/lib/modules/(stock2.6.21kernel)# du -s 60804 . /lib/modules/(my2.6.21kernel)# du -s 538292 . That's a 785% increase in space consumed by my modules over stock modules. Does that happen for anyone building their own Factory kernel? Can a more normal space consumption be made to happen by a mere mortal kernel building novice like myself? What I did was: 1-apply the patch from http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7513 2-zcat /proc/config.gz > .config 3-make menuconfig to add smbfs and change the CONFIG_LOCALVERSION 4-make 5-make modules_install 6-INSTALL_PATH=/boot make install 7-fix the resulting broken /boot/grub/menu.lst -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] FYI: Freetype is broken in FACTORY
by Andreas Jaeger 30 May '08

30 May '08

FYI: Current freetype in FACTORY is broken, use the version from Alpha4 instead of updating, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Can't Rescue 10.3
by Felix Miata 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Friday I determined that 4096 was an inappropriate blocksize for my non-libata hda19 Factory / partition. I booted 10.1 from hda7 and did a cp -a on that partition to another partition, reformatted to the 1024 blocksize, then did cp -a back to it. I then tried to mount and chroot to it in order to run grub-install. Grub-install failed due to the non-existent target device. Copying the hda19 device file from the 10.1 / and trying again didn't help. I tried to do a rescue installation, but both rescue modes apparently failed for a similar or the same reason. Is it possible in Factory to do a rescue? If so, how? -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ppc buildservice
by Peter Czanik 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hello, I installed the latest factory, and I quite enjoy it, especially the part of adding repositories from the build service easily. I got just one 'little' problem: on PPC all of these repositories are empty (OK, I could probably find some 'noarch' :-) ). Any news on this? Or still 'no public info' or 'in a few months'? Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] brp scripts in autobuild
by andreas.hanke＠gmx-topmail.de 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

Hi, from various discussions in bug reports I know that brp scripts for the following are installed in autobuild: - check whether .la files have an empty dependency_libs line - check whether .la and .pc files have references to the build root - check whether .desktop files have all their icons installed Are these scripts publicly available somewhere? They are not distributed with rpm, build or osc and I could not find them anywhere else either. If not, would it be possible to publish these (and others, if present)? Andreas Hanke -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Known problem with zypper still?
by Sid Boyce 01 Aug '07

01 Aug '07

Opened a bug some time ago. Selecting some packages from Factory will cause zypper to not return, stays permanently "working on" and window goes grey. Kill -9 the pids of yast2 sw_single, removing /var/run/zypp.pid and at times needing to bomb out the window is the only way to return it to sanity, then YaST --> Installation Source can be restarted. It's not capable of resolving certain dependencies. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] modprobe --skip-unsupported not needed anymore
by Michal Marek 30 Jul '07

30 Jul '07

[sorry for the cross-post, but this could be of interest for both packagers as well as factory users/testers] Hi, in case you see warnings like this: WARNING: the --skip-unsupported option is no longer available then either fix your package to no longer care about unsupported modules (remove the --skip-unsupported option) or make a bugreport if it's not in your package. Ex: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293758 Background: the handling of unsupported modules was changed in 10.3, it's now globally configured in /etc/modprobe.d/unsupported.blacklist, it's no longer the responsibility of the callers of modprobe. For compatibility with not yet updated scripts, the option is still recongnized, but it prints the above warning. For details, see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-07/msg00513.html have a nice day, Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zypper and kde login
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

Hello, zypper is after update from factory broken :(. Not found the libixxx.so.34 the new is xxx.so.36 ? It is also not possible to login in kde in runlevel 5 -- mit freundlichen Grüssen / best Regards Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 from DVD
by Donn Washburn 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

Hey Group; It loaded/worked just fine on My Laptop (HP 6400) with a RJ45 eth0 and a Wireless WIFI. However, That part is not working correctly. It would not set the default to agree with the "Server Search" device This all came about at the end when hardware detection was being used. Problem is due to not allowing multiple devices to to be setup early in the install. However, it must be a display variable problem. Yast2 when up seems to have it correct under Network Setting > Network Card. It just seems it took a while and then a ping worked via the wireless card. The fingerprint device was found. hwinfo --usb found it but no listing. Has anyone figured out which driver to use. I am trying "hpaio" -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Audacity memory problems
by Juan Erbes 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

I could'nt use audacity because it crashes inmeditely. Executing it from konsole, I got: ***MEMORY-WARNING***: [5906]: GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon... JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] The package is audacity-1.3.3-15.i586.rpm. What can I do? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] eCryptfs in 10.3
by Michael Halcrow 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

I noticed that ecryptfs-utils version 10 is in openSUSE 10.3 Alpha. I am the lead developer for eCryptfs, so if there are any support issues, send them my way. Note that ecryptfs-utils is now at version 18, with several minor bugfixes. I recommend picking that up: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ecryptfs/ecryptfs-utils-18.tar.gz Thanks, Mike Halcrow mhalcrow(a)us.ibm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: [opensuse] Why all the icons were uglified in 10.3 Alpha 6 ?
by Alexey Eremenko 27 Jul '07

27 Jul '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Clayton <smaug42(a)gmail.com> Date: Jul 25, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Why all the icons were uglified in 10.3 Alpha 6 ? To: Open SuSE Listserv <opensuse(a)opensuse.org> > In SUSE 10.2, all the Yast icons were beautyful, now they all became ugly. > > Why is that? That was discussed on the factory list. Quoting Andreas: "YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature. If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme," and "Tango icons in general fit much better to KDE4 than the crystal ones - and we would like to maintain only one icon set," While I fully understand (and support) the need to reduce maintenance overhead.... well... my very low opinions of Gnome and the Tango icon set are better left unsaid... especially that annoying and broken file picker thing that GTK based apps use (eg Firefox). Sigh.... C. -- ==================================== Please make it at least selectable, as those ugly icons have good chances for me to stop using SUSE at all. They are so ugly... -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] pdftk 1.41
by Carlos F Lange 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

Which version of pdftk is being included in 10.3? I just found that version 1.41 shown here: http://www.pdfhacks.com/pdftk/ also does stamping beside watermarking. While watermarking works well placing background images on text-based PDFs, such as from Latex, it does not work with scanned PDFs, because the watermark in the background is completely covered by the scanned image. pdftk 1.41 can circumvent that by applying a stamp on the front of the scanned images, according to the description. The website only has version 1.41 compiled for Windows. The latest Suse version in the site is 1.12, which is the same I have in Suse 10.1. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] how to create a bootable CD from the DVD iso?
by Per Jessen 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

I'm sure someone's already asked, but I couldn't find the answer - how do I create a bootable CD from the Alpha6 DVD image? I usually install over pxe/ssh, but I've got a bit of a tough case, so figured I'd try booting from CD. (as I did with alpha5). /Per Jessen, Zürich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Next week, next alpha
by Stephan Kulow 25 Jul '07

25 Jul '07

Hi! As not everyone might follow the recent changes of the wiki, I'd like to tell you quickly that we'll release next week's alpha to the public. I hope we can sort out all blockers till then. The factory tree looked ok to me this morning. But I hope to have a new sync with a fixed syslog-ng soonish - for the impatient ones I suggest http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/syslog-ng/ Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory update breaks the system (resmgr problem)
by Silviu Marin-Caea 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

I have just performed an update to latest factory, and there must be something broken with resmgr. /dev/null is not accessible by my user, I get /dev/null permission denied when I log in the console, and KDE does not start at all. I have stopped the resmgr service and then chmod a+rw /dev/null, to be able to use KDE. I'll file a bug. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] need iso images
by Mohammed Omar 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

hi, I need iso images for opensuse10.3 alpha6 for ppc64.. I have seen bittorrents, but can't i get iso images? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] renaming of source packages proposal
by Stanislav Brabec 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Hallo. I saw many renames of packages in the last days. We follow shared library packaging conventions, but this policy says nothing about renaming of source package. I think, that it would be a good practice to use the same name for both devel and source package. It's more convenient and even simpler to do it in the spec. I propose to add following line to the Packaging/Shared Library Packaging Policy: "Source packages should in general omit $NUM as .src.rpm packages for different library versions and should follow -devel package naming." In practice it will bring more convenient .src.rpm naming and nicer spec files and less number of renames and drops in the repositories. Deprecated: Name: libfoo_1_2_3 Version: 1.2.3 %define orig_name libfoo Source: %{orig_name}-%{version}.tar.bz2 ... %files ... %files -n %{orig_name}-devel It produces: libfoo_1_2_3-1.2.3.i586.rpm libfoo-devel-1.2.3.i586.rpm libfoo_1_2_3-1.2.3.src.rpm Proposed: Name: libfoo Version: 1.2.3 Source: %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2 ... %files -n libfoo_1_2_3 ... %files devel It produces: libfoo-1_2_3-1.2.3.i586.rpm libfoo-devel-1.2.3.i586.rpm libfoo-1.2.3.src.rpm -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: libzypp memory consumption
by Andreas Vetter 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

Hi, I installed the x86_64 DVD yesterday and had problems when I selected a big amount of packages. First I selected a pattern (KDE4), the machine begins to resolve the dependencies (autocheck is on by default). After some time X is stopped, it falls into the ncurses interface and it shows a red error without explanation, what exactly happened. The second time I ommitted KDE4, but selected all other patterns then switched to package groups. And began to select whole package groups with "All in this list". This worked for the first one or two, but then the same as above: The machine begins to resolve the dependencies (autocheck is on by default). After some time X is stopped, it falls into the ncurses interface and it shows a red error without explanation, what exactly happened. After the second experience of this, I switched to the console log and saw that the Out-Of-Memory function killed hal daemon. The machine has 1 GB RAM, so this should not happen. Is there a known problem with memory consumption during installation? -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management
by Gregg Nicholas 24 Jul '07

24 Jul '07

I've tried Alpha6 (i386) on 2 different machines now. Neither machine can add more software packages after the initial installation. They keep erroring with 'No installation source'. It looks like my symptoms are similar to bug reports 293586 and 293705. I'm a newbie. Is there anything that I can do to help? <notes> During installation, the media check step verifies that the DVD-RW is okay. Skipped network setup but took defaults on everything else for a KDE installation. disabled ipv6, enabled ssh & vnc skip internet check - error - No package source defined [OK] configure normal user to receive system email dvd shows up in system:/media/sr0 as SU103Alp.001 Yast software management Warning - No installation source is defined. Only installed packages are displayed [OK] tried to add installation source dvd yast got signal 11 at ycp file sourcedialogs.ycp:1098 /sbin/yast2: line 385: 3618 Segmentation fault $ypbindir/y2base $module mounted dvd as root and added /mnt to installation sources still get warning - No installation source is defined deleted all installation sources, added DVD still get warning - No installation source is defined </notes> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3
by Martin Schlander 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

As feature freeze is drawing closer and compiz-fusion have yet to release I'm wondering what will be done here. Will compiz-fusion(-git) move into factory before feature freeze? Is it possible to assert some kind of pressure on David R. to push release in time for 10.3? ;-) Or will we ship 10.3 with some tired old compiz, just to see Compiz-fusion release a week or two after 10.3? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?
by Andreas Vetter 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

Hi, is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box: An error occured during installation. This happens on 2 different 64bit machines. The firmware test in alpha5 x86_64 works. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE
by Silviu Marin-Caea 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

After I have installed Alpha6 with KDE, YaST has Gnome icons. Bug or "feature"? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Kinternet not completes the connection
by Juan Erbes 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

After upgrade to 10.3 alpha 6, Kinternet not completes a dialup the connection. I downgraded to previous versions the packages ppp, smppp and kinternet, and the problem continues. I configured wvdial, and it works fine. The log of wvdial is: CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. ~[7f]}#@!}!5} }9}"}&} }*} } }#}%B#}%}%}&Rp,};}'}"}(}"p:~ --> PPP negotiation detected. --> Starting pppd at Mon Jul 23 08:51:25 2007 --> Pid of pppd: 4969 --> Using interface ppp0 --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> local IP address 200.68.236.83 --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> remote IP address 200.68.236.254 --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> primary DNS address 200.49.192.41 --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> secondary DNS address 200.49.207.41 --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] --> Script /etc/ppp/ip-up run successful --> Default route Ok. --> Nameserver (DNS) Ok. --> Connected... Press Ctrl-C to disconnect --> pppd: h��[12][06][08] The log of kinternet is: pppd[0]: CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS pppd[0]: --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. pppd[0]: ** Bienvenidos a Belgrano 2** pppd[0]: Usuario: pppd[0]: --> Looks like a login prompt. pppd[0]: --> Sending: emp/jerbes pppd[0]: emp/jerbes pppd[0]: Password: pppd[0]: --> Looks like a password prompt. pppd[0]: --> Sending: (password) pppd[0]: Entering PPP Session. pppd[0]: IP address is 200.45.208.111 pppd[0]: MTU is 1524. pppd[0]: --> Looks like a welcome message. pppd[0]: --> Starting pppd at Mon Jul 23 09:14:58 2007 pppd[0]: --> Pid of pppd: 6443 Kinternet, do'nt continues at this point, and later the connection was closed. Thanks

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Re: [Martin Schlander] [opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3
by Martin Schlander 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

Den Monday 23 July 2007 12:27:17 skrev Matthias Hopf: > What exactly are you refering to with compiz-fusion? The core package or > the extras? compiz-fusion AFAIU stands for the community plugins only, > and is provided in X11:Xgl in the openSUSE build service as > compiz-extra. It should probably be renamed. Yes, I had misunderstood the new stucture. I thought there was only one project now, "compiz-fusion" - and that David R. was a principle developer of that, who might be able to pull some strings and give us some extra consideration. I realize now this is not how it works at all. One of the reasons I asked is that for 10.2 some Novell projects released with rather unfortunate timing from openSUSE perspective - iirc both Banshee and Mono released new versions very shortly after openSUSE feature-freeze. Personally I don't care about any of those projects, but I care about openSUSE and it seemed silly that there was no coordination. I was hoping we could avoid a repeat. But since the release of compiz + compiz-extra is not under our control at all, I'm just wasting people's time. So all I'm left with is just to express my hopes that we can ship both compiz(-core) _and_ compiz-extra with 10.3. I guess the new settings manager is in -extra... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [Martin Schlander] [opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3
by CyberOrg 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

On 7/23/07, Matthias Hopf <mhopf(a)suse.de> wrote: > > From: Martin Schlander <suse(a)linuxin.dk> > > As feature freeze is drawing closer and compiz-fusion have yet to release I'm > > wondering what will be done here. > > What exactly are you refering to with compiz-fusion? The core package or > the extras? compiz-fusion AFAIU stands for the community plugins only, > and is provided in X11:Xgl in the openSUSE build service as > compiz-extra. It should probably be renamed. > > compiz has been updated to latest git lately (and not much tested yet). > Cyberorg is working on the community packages, I don't know ATM whether > he has already updated compiz-extra in X11:Xgl to a new version. Adding > him to CC so he can comment on that. Compiz-extra will be dropped from that repo. Compiz-Fusion will consist of following: 1. compiz-fusion-plugins-main 2. compiz-fusion-plugins-extra 3. compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported 4. CompizConfig-Settings-Manager (ccsm) containing gconf and kconfig backends 5. libcompizconfig (ccsm dep and provides ccp plugin for ini backend) 6. compizconfig-python (ccsm dep) > compiz is right now as new as it can be. I tried to wait for the new > release, but that took too long, so I went for a git snapshot. It > hopefully is stable enough. Unfortunately compiz package in X11:XGL need some more work, I am not sure gconf schemas are applied right and default settings(decoration, opensuse logo etc) patches actually work. I will move fusion etc there once I am happy with compiz package there. gnome-xgl-settings might need to be updated or improved so that it can dynamically recognize all the plugins and offer settings options the way ccsm does or drop it completely in favor of ccsm or use it just to activate and deactivate Xgl. It might also be good idea to offer choice to switch between Xgl/Nvidia/AIGLX with smart default. I felt compiz-git package from home:cyberorg worked much better with ccp (ini/flatfile backend) when configured with ccsm. I have updated all the packages in home:cyberorg to todays git checkout of both compiz and compiz-fusion/community packages. To test those packages run this in shell as root: rpm -e compiz compiz-gnome compiz-kde zypper sa http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cyberorg/SUSE_Factory* cftest zypper in compiz-git-all (this will pull all the required packages) once everything is downloaded and installed as user launch compiz as follows: compiz --replace ccp& ccsm & Enable "Decoration" plugin and add gtk-window-decorator as command option there. *http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cyberorg/openSUSE_10.2/ if using 10.2 ** With zypper broken on factory, you may have to manually enable the repo from /etc/zypper/repo.d/cftest.repo by adding enabled=1 and manually run zypper refresh cftest. Although there has not been any 'official' release of fusion packages yet, packages from git work quite well, I would love to have them in 10.3. > Also I do not know right now how far we are already in the process of > eventually adding packages built by the openSUSE community (Cyberorg is > not working for SUSE) to our distributions. 1 Million downloads in 4 months, if statistic over at Build Service is to be believed, makes a strong point that packages from X11:Xgl should be incorporated in 10.3. Cheers -J -- cyberorg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-fr] Re: [opensuse-doc] How to name that thing? Repository/installation source/Catalog...
by Pascal Bleser 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jdd wrote: > Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> The decision was to use "repository". Other names considered where >> "installation source" and "catalog". > > could you also ask your translation team to give the official translation. > > At least in french, repository is not easy to translate. The very same > word exists but is completely obsolete (repositoire - meaning the place > where you store dead human corpse to family last visit :-()). > > http://fr.opensuse.org/Glossaire_d'équivalences_entre_l'anglais_et_le_français > > the best word seems to be "dépôt", but "Réserve" may be better. Package > repository gives "Réserve de paquetages", "Dépôt de paquetages" > (paquetage is very odd in french, but most used anyway) "Dépôt" is the adequate term IMO. - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGpH0fr3NMWliFcXcRAtiqAKCeXZpW5YE1eKXH7AP25iSHPQPkmQCfdNw6 XHLcxkTxklZMJoFCmtIhyAk= =raN+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] util-linux-crypto
by Doctor Nemo 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have OpenSuSE 10.3 Alpha6 I have a encrypted partition. Where is "util-linux-crypto"? I need it for decrypt the partion. The DVD no contains it. Thanks. - -- Salu2. AMD Athlon 3800+ OpenSuSE 10.3 Alpha6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGpHrIVNQyRvVnplARAkpFAJ0eJ/cY0lmf3Js9ac0pc6/ZgUEfFwCfay3O 2dIxtTolEnCVHSGcQ5tKcRI= =YSou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Broken links on http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version
by Bjoern Voigt 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

Hello! There are some broken torrent links on http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version Currently these links are broken: * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… * http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-… If it's not possible to provide the torrent files, I think it's better to remove the above links. Greetings, Björn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] java plugin for firefox on x86_64, alpha6
by Silviu Marin-Caea 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

Is this supposed to work right now? Or is it still work in progress with the plugin wrapper... At least a very positive thing is that java in Konqueror does work. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] No factory update since 17/7/07
by Sid Boyce 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

Possibly due to Novell free project work week? Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Five or More?
by Keith Goggin 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

A minor point but in Alpha6 Kmenu / System / Configuration / Yast2-Install is labeled 'Five or More'. also Kmenu / System / Desktop Applet / openSUSE-Updater is labeled 'Balsa'. Do these require a bug report? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Installation from Alpha6 Error code -3030
by Bjørn Bendix 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

Hello, I try to install the Alpha6 on my Dell Desktop PC. When the system go to format the disk i get the error -3030. Nothing will be done. The disk is an raid1 system. Under Opensuse10.2 it works very fine. Bye Bjørn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] PS2 mouse in a console
by Donn Washburn 22 Jul '07

22 Jul '07

I had a problem today with Alpha 5 Yast2 and a ps/2 mouse. The mouse is one of those LED 2 button wheel mouse. It worked just fine in 10.1 and previous;y in Alpha 5. However, after a reload of Alpha 5 using Yast2/Hardware/Mousse will not enable the mouse other that in the runlevel 5 KDM/GDM/XDM. After Yast2 was exited I "cd" to /etc/init.d and did "./gdm start" with no luck. I have tried changing the drivers (both drivers are ps2 or AUX). As I recall I set the gdm up in the Runlevel editor. Can you think of a reason it would not work? -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
by David Bolt 21 Jul '07

21 Jul '07

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote:- <snip> >Media and Download >================== > >openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6 for i386, x86-64 and ppc comes as different media >sets: >* 1 DVD containing the contents of the 5 CDs and the NonOSS AddOn CD >* 1 CD with a default KDE installation (not for ppc yet) >* 1 CD with a default GNOME installation (not for ppc yet) >* 1 AddOn CD with only NonOSS packages on it >* 1 AddOn CD with language packages that are used for extra > languages (the DVD contains support for english, french, italian, spanish, > german, chinese, japanese, czech, danish, norwegian, khmer, > hungarian, polish) (the DVD has support for installation in all > languages, just extra packages are only on this extra media) >* DVD/CDs containing the sources corresponding to the media > >We have created Delta ISOs from openSUSE 10.3 Alpha5. Please use them >for download. No mention of the normal CD ISOs, nor the alpha5_alpha6 delta ISOs, being released. Are there plans to create and release the normal CD ISOs? Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 100 Mnodes/s: www.distributed.net RISC OS 3.11 | SUSE 10.0 32bit | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit RISC OS 3.6 | SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit TOS 4.02 | SUSE 9.3 32bit | | openSUSE 10.3a5 32bit --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper should be included in 1-cd install
by Alberto Passalacqua 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

I think ndiswrapper should be included on 1CD install. Many users have network cards whose only possibility to work under linux is ndiswrapper. As a consequence, I think it would be of great help to provide ndiswrapper directly on the CD. With kind regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
by Andreas Vetter 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

Hi, the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. The i386 image stalled at 99,90%. But since 10 hours no progress for the last piece. The x86_64 image is downloading with approx 15KB/s and I have 46%. Do others have the same problem? Is it just me? With Alpha5 it was no problem. Is there any help? -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] when to refresh?
by Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

Hi guys. If you read already the news on package management, there are some open issues we would like to have feedback from you. As you may know, now all operations on repositories are splitted, so you can add a repository without downloading metadata. But at some point to operate on them you need valid metadata and a binary cache. An example: zypper sa http://foo bar zypper search moo zypper install cuack for the search, you need cache, for the cache you need metadata. Should ZYpper exit and tell the user to refresh, or should it ask the user whether to refresh without exiting? In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector? -- Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett Novell :: SUSE R&D, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
by Kenneth Schneider 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] minimal install
by Coach-X 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Can the new GNOME/KDE cd's be used to install a text only version as well as a minimal graphical system? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] libzypp: what to test on alpha6
by Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Repository handling - Repositories can now be added either via yast, zypper or just copying a .repo file to /etc/zypp/repos.d - a .repo file added by hand could have more than one repository defined inside. - Mixing of hand repo operations with API repo operations in all combinations should succeed. We have testcases for this but still more can be find. We cover cases like, add a repo file with 2 repositories by hand, then delete one with zypper, and the other one should still be in the same file without loosing attributes. - Cache, cache size, adding and removing. adding repos, removing, adding (mixing hand operations with app operations), thousand times, the db size should not increase too much, neither stay constant (some things like names survive cache deletion because removing unused ones is a expensive operation ) Known to be somehow broken right now, but should be tested in the next alphas: - Media handling, this is the most broken part. - patches with scripts and delta rpms - Disk usage calculation (should) be broken. -- Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett Novell :: SUSE R&D, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] package management in next alpha/10.3
by Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Hi community, The next alpha6 of openSUSE 10.3 will contain lot of changes in the package management code. I will try to summarize what is new so you can help us testing. The integration can bring some regressions, so please test it and help us to fix the remaining bugs during the betas. What were the goals: * no more refresh and parsing during startup. * more compatibility with tools like yum and smart * more speed for the common use case: install a package Before ZYpp did not make difference between launching the sources and refreshing them. This was quite annoying, and turned into needing network access for any operation requiring launching the sources first, like deleting, adding, searching. How does it work now? * Repositories now have a unique (in your system) alias. * Adding a repository is just a matter of copying [a .repo file ][1] (like those provided by the build service) to /etc/zypp/repos.d directory. If you use zypper or YaST it will create them for you, and perform additional checks. * Download of metadata happens during refresh. Also in this operation a binary cache is created. * deleting a repository is just a matter of deleting its .repo file, or doing it via zypper/YaST (they take additional checks like vacuum the cache). * YaST was just adapted and is still WIP, so in some places the old semantics could be still used (like refreshing repos even if it is not needed). * The binary cache allow to start up zypper and install packages in a much faster way. Caching the metadata is slow. But you do it once per refresh, and the data is stored preparsed in the cache. This allows to launch small repos in fraction of a second, and big repos in seconds later. No more parsing files in each startup. * Before lot of memory was used because most of the GUI data (descriptions, etc) was read into memory. Now all attributes (except resolvable information, for which we need indexes) is loaded on demand from the cache. * refresh operation uses now much less memory. One one object is kept in memory at time while writing the cache. For the developers: * Lot of testcases. We can do more aggressive development without breaking basic stuff. * Lot of redesign, to be able to implement new features. * We build with cmake now You expect for the future (post 10.3): * Integrate search with the cache, so no need to launch the resolvables and loop for searching * solving some queries from the cache? [1]: http://en.opensuse.org/Standards/RepoInfo -- Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett Novell :: SUSE R&D, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] HP Printers problem 10.3 Alpha5plus x86_64
by Sid Boyce 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Everything was working on 10.3 Alpha4plus, setup using "hp-setup". I hadn't tried printing again until 10.3 Alpha5plus. Jobs get queued but not printed. A test print to either Photosmart C4180 or DeskJet 840C from http://localhost:631 causes either printer status to go from green to yellow -- message: DeskJet_840C (Default Printer) "open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds..." Same happens for Photosmart. From /var/log/cups/error_log. I shall file a bug report later. I [19/Jul/2007:03:14:03 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 3843) for job 44. I [19/Jul/2007:03:14:03 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib64/cups/backend/hp (PID 3844) for job 44. I [19/Jul/2007:13:35:58 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/pstops (PID 17469) for job 45. I [19/Jul/2007:13:35:58 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 17470) for job 45. I [19/Jul/2007:13:35:58 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib64/cups/backend/hp (PID 17471) for job 45. I [19/Jul/2007:13:35:58 +0100] Job 44 was canceled by "root". I [19/Jul/2007:13:35:58 +0100] Job 45 was canceled by "root". I [19/Jul/2007:13:36:53 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:36:53 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17475) I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:11 +0100] commptr="?op=set-as-default&printer_name=Photosmart_C4100" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:11 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=17476) E [19/Jul/2007:13:38:11 +0100] CUPS-Set-Default: Unauthorized I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] commptr="?op=set-as-default&printer_name=Photosmart_C4100" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=17477) E [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] CUPS-Set-Default: Unauthorized I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] Saving printers.conf... I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] Saving classes.conf... I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:14 +0100] Default destination set to "Photosmart_C4100" by "root". I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:19 +0100] commptr="?OP=redirect&URL=/printers/Photosmart_C4100" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:19 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=17479) I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:19 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:19 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17480) I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] commptr="?op=print-test-page" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17482) I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Adding start banner page "none" to job 46. I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Adding end banner page "none" to job 46. I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Job 46 queued on "Photosmart_C4100" by "guest". I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/pstops (PID 17483) for job 46. I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 17484) for job 46. I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:36 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib64/cups/backend/hp (PID 17485) for job 46. I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:39 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:39 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17497) I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:50 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:38:50 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17499) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:01 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:01 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17500) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:04 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:04 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17501) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:15 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:15 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17502) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:26 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:26 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17503) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:28 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:28 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17504) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] commptr="?op=set-as-default&printer_name=DeskJet_840C" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=17505) E [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] CUPS-Set-Default: Unauthorized I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] Saving printers.conf... I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] Saving classes.conf... I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:39 +0100] Default destination set to "DeskJet_840C" by "root". I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:44 +0100] commptr="?OP=redirect&URL=/printers/DeskJet_840C" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:44 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi" (pid=17506) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:44 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:44 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17507) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] commptr="?op=print-test-page" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17508) I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Adding start banner page "none" to job 47. I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Adding end banner page "none" to job 47. I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Job 47 queued on "DeskJet_840C" by "guest". I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/pstops (PID 17509) for job 47. I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Started filter /usr/lib64/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 17510) for job 47. I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:50 +0100] Started backend /usr/lib64/cups/backend/hp (PID 17511) for job 47. I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:53 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:39:53 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17521) I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:03 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:03 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17522) I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:14 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:14 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17524) I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:17 +0100] Job 47 was canceled by "root". I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:25 +0100] commptr="" I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:25 +0100] Started "/usr/lib64/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=17526) I [19/Jul/2007:13:40:46 +0100] Job 46 was canceled by "root". Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] packages.sk
by Peter Czanik 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Hello, Spent some time debugging it, so I share my experience: I use a local http server as installation source for factory. After yesterday's sync I found, that installation sources are broken, packages.sk is not available. It turned out, that it's a symlink, and 'AllowSymLinks' is missing from my apache configuration. This brings up a few questions: - the symlink was here since May. Why did not cause it any problem earlier? - why do I need packages.sk at all, when my installation is English and / or Hungarian? This is a wasted 5 MB of RAM, especially on low RAM machines, which I test. Just checked, over 400MB of swap is used, while earlier alpha releases used under 300MB. The best was around Alpha3 from this point of view, if I recall well... Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] /usr/bin/kdeinit4
by Donn Washburn 19 Jul '07

19 Jul '07

Hey Group; I was doing some "locate" when I found "kdeinit4" under /usr/bin. However, there are no file to go with it so it dies. I tried "startx kdeinit4. and it bombs (no surprise). This is SuSE 10.3Alpha 5 with the stock KDE 3.5.7 (as I remember) -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Modules to include in initrd for ATI SB600 chipset
by Juan Erbes 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

I have a motherboard MSI K9A PLATINUM with a Athlon64 X2 5200, and I can't install any version of Suse or Opensuse beause the install program do'nt detects dthe har disk. The install program will load the ahci module, but it's buggy, and the bios is set to "Native IDE" I changed the setting to ahci, but do'nt works. I triyed to use the sata disk from my old computer with OSS 10.3 alpha5 32 bits, but I could'nt lograte to mount and load the system. I added to the initrd the modules atiixp, pata_atiixp and sata_sil. The bios is set to "Native IDE". How appear the disk? as ide or scsi? How I need to name the patitions?. In my old computer the roor partition appear as /dev/sda2. I have installed a Asus dvd ide burner as first ide device. What modules I must to include in initrd? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] fingerprint reader support
by Carlos F Lange 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

Is there a plan to include fingerprint reader support in 10.3? According to Thinkwiki there is a thinkfinger driver and Fedora has a libbiometrics RPM implementing it. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] MNG error previously mentioned
by Donn Washburn 15 Jul '07

15 Jul '07

Hey Group; SuSE 10.3 Alpha 5 and it was in Alpha 4 also I have tracked it down to a problem coming from KDE. From .xsession this "MNG error 11" showed up and it goes for pages of lines. Does the "profile" mean a ".profile" file. ".profile" exist Any clues? (II) Module already built-in No profile for user 'donn' found /etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. /etc/X11/xim: user environment variable LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... KMenuBase::setProperty( "frameShadow", value ) failed: property invalid, read-only or does not exist KMenuBase::setProperty( "frameShape", value ) failed: property invalid, read-only or does not exist QObject::connect: No such signal Kicker::settingsChanged(SettingsCategory) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'kicker') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'animtt') MNG error 4: Encountered unexpected end-of-file; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0 -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Java 6
by Glenn Holmer 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

What are the plans for Java 6 in openSUSE 10.3? Will it be included? Will the user be able to choose between Java 5 and Java 6 at install time? Will there be an easy way to switch between versions once the install is complete? How about Tomcat 6? -- "Mozilla, unlike emacs, is not an operating system." Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
by Andreas Jaeger 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Michael Löffler wrote on opensuse-announce: > Hi, > > the survey we did on proprietary software can be found here: > http://en.opensuse.org/UX#Surveys > > It shows that we ship on the media some software which is hardly used (e.g. > PlanMaker, SEPsesam etc.). Software which is hardly used we don't neet to > ship on our media. Therfor my suggestion is to drop some software totally and > offer some software only via ftp. To be discussed on opensuse-project. > > Best > Michael > > PS: The question on TexLive was confusing. TexLive is open source but we > wanted to know the use of it as it needs meanwhile so much space. So, Michael and myself *propose* the following actions: * Remove ARCAD completely since it does not work at all on x86-64 (see bug #248873) * Offer software that reached either > 80% on "Never" or less than 15 % on "Often" + "Very often" only via *ftp* with 10.3. The following software would be affected: Planmaker SEPsesam TextMaker TeXlive Moneyplex falls also under this role, due to its usecase we suggest to leave it on the media. What do you think? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] need help with kiwi netboot kernel
by James Tremblay 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

hey guys, I know you don't normally do support or troubleshooting here but, I am asking here at the suggestion of AJ, I am trying to get KIWI and LTSP working with the guys over there. I have some VIA 533 micro thin clients from the LTSP projects direct supplier http://www.disklessworkstations.com that work fine with both Ubuntu's TC server and LTSP 4.2. When I load the netboot for 10.2 my client stalls after "freeing unused memory" and loading the mouse driver. I say "stalls" because it still takes input from the keyboard and when I push the power button it unloads some pci stuff and shuts off. While trying to investigate this issue I borrowed the initrd and "linux" from the 10.2 network installation cd (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.2-GM-i386…), I call the "mini" ,put those in my tftp server and it loads up just fine, of course it's looking for a network installation server which does me no good , but it loads. This leads "snorp" and I to believe it is in the netboot kernel description used by kiwi to build it's kernel. Neither of us has any kernel knowledge so I'm asking for the purposes of testing this theory further could one of you please take a moment and pull the bits out of the "initrd" from the mini that launch the scripts to start the UI for the network installation and send it to me? It would be hugely appreciated. If your in a teaching mood I'd love that too, we are in the irc room #opensuse-kiwi If there is anyone interested in learning a little about KIWI please start with building a kernel description for netbooting. The one the LTSP group built for Ubuntu is tiny and they said they achieved this by bypassing the need for "glibc" ,I think, anyway that conversation was way over my head. We need a lightweight diskless kernel build description that can be applied to all versions of SUSE since this will be needed for SLED10 as well. -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] some packages constantly broken
by Ain Vagula 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Hi, updating suse 10.2 with Smart, some packages from Gnome repository are constantly broken, ie in 90% of cases 'server reports wrong size'. One of most certain ones is 'desktop-data-SUSE' (which was broken again at least in whole last week) and very often 'update-desktop-files' and 'desktop-translations' too. It almost never happens to other packages. As I badly need them to test translation, it brings me to some difficulties... Adrian is marked as author of these packages, can you please pay attention to this problem? Ain --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Minutes from dist meeting 2007-07-05
by Andreas Jaeger 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

* FreeNX: Use of /usr/NX This was not needed anymore since the packages could be easily fixed. In general, we want to avoid such directories since this is a violation of the FHS and therefore a product containing this package could not get LSB certified. * Handling of dropped packages: Problem: packages move to BuildService or other product, adding obsolotes makes it difficult to install these packages. Real problem: Package renames which miss one case, e.g. -32bit + devel split. We should be able to test these via solver test cases: * Generate RPM database of old product * Update to current release * Check which packages are not updated In general: The solver should say that a package has a problem and is not on new media - and then propose to remove it. QA tests Alphas eery two weeks with update from 10.2. AI: QA to report bugs and use the setting "do not delete obsolete packages" AI: talk about test case generation. AI: change the default in the control file (to "do not delete obsolete packages") AI: draft paragraph for release notes AI: play with resolver * Improve debuginfo packages Some packages need many libraries for a meaningful backtrace. Idea: Add a debug_requires macro to the rpm spec files to add custom requires which then can be used by packagers in those spec files where it makes sense. AI: implement such a macro. No decision was made on removing/splitting the sources from the debuginfo package, we keep the status quo for now. * Log files and RPM spec Problem: I would like to bring up something else. There are currently some bugreports about package not owning the logfiles the included software produces. See for instance: #280493 #280474 These were reported to cause problems with a security checker. This should not only be a problem for log files but also for pid files and other varialbe data. It would need to be handled for deinstall of packages but not for update. We decided to reject these bugs for now as invalid. Let's understand the real problem first. AI: explain the problem better so that we can search for alternative solutions Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] SuperTuxKart disappeared?
by Dominique Leuenberger 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi, I've seen that supertuxkart disappeared from The factory repositories? What happened? I thought it was there to replace the old 'tuxkart' (which is also not part of factory anymore). In plus, in games:arcade, there is SuperTuxKart 0.2.99 (ok: it is 0.3.0rc1) available.. 0.3.0 is scheduled for a release in a few weeks and I hope we can have it in the distro afterwards. Dominique TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 72 offices in 56 countries and over 2,000 professionals (February 2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] sudoers file permissions
by Hubertus A. Haniel 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi, Anybody know if the file permission change on /etc/sudoers from 0640 to 0440 is intentional? - I am syncing /etc/sudoers between multible SuSE boxes using rdist over ssh and on my 10.3/Factory box sudo started complaining. - For the time being I have a cronjob on that box that resets the permissions but it is kind of annoying. Regards Hubba --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] what happened to factory?
by Peter Czanik 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hello, What happened to factory? It has not seen an update for more than a week. And it can't even be installed, as gpg is missing from the installer... Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Firefox 2.0.0.4 is crashing
by Silviu Marin-Caea 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

The tragedy is that not only is crashing randomly on my Factory machine, but also on my 10.2 stable vanilla at home. The previous version didn't crash at all. I'm gonna install debuginfo and start running firefox from the command line, to catch the problem. I don't know why it doesn't start that Talkback thing after it crashes. Does this happen to anyone else? Worse, even, on my home machine I also had crashes of kontact, konqueror, kaffeine. KDE needs an automated crashdata collector badly! The user just has to press [Send], and not run gdb and other hard stuff. I'm going to start doing the gdb stuff myself.. and file bugs. WTF, it feels like Windows 98! And I don't think it's a hardware problem, I also run on that computer some monster games that don't have any problems running stable for hours. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Downloaded OpenOffice and Alpha5
by Donn Washburn 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hey Group; In Alpha5 what would cause a previous and today downloaded OpenOffice.tar.gz not to unzip. Using either tar -xzvf or straight gunzip. I get a failed "invalid compressed-data format" error At first I thought I had a bad ooo.tar.gz so I downloaded it again. SuSE supplied gzip-1.3.12-15 Open Office OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz Any ideas -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
by Alberto Passalacqua 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Il giorno lun, 09/07/2007 alle 09.46 -0400, James Tremblay ha scritto: > I believe a complete restructuring of openSUSE's delivery should be > considered. To provide as little difference between the download and the > retail versions as possible should be the goal, And there are > differences. check the bug > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=282531 there are differences > even the devs forget. > > my proposal is no dvd: > cd1 kde or gnome base install > cd2 OS extension, rest of yast and anything that could be called as an > underlying dependency to an application. > cd3 server applications i.e apache2,mysql,etc > cd4 server applications that rely on cd3 > cdx0 more server applications > cdX1 desktop applications, this could be more than one cd if catagories > demand the space. It could also include the EDU-CD > cdX2 non-oss > cdX3 etc > > This way a person downloading would only need to choose the desktop and > what they want to accomplish beyond that. To be honest, it seems to me the proliferation of CD's and it doesn't solve the problem. The user would have to download 1 CD and almost surely multiples CD's due to dependencies. I'd stick with one DVD with the current configuration and eventually _reduce_ the number of media by removing the 1-5 CD set, which I don't think is widely used. In other words: - _FULL_ DVD for both architecture - 1 CD install for GNOME and KDE With kind regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
by Alberto Passalacqua 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Il giorno dom, 08/07/2007 alle 14.27 -0400, James Tremblay ha scritto: > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 18:30 +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > > Il giorno dom, 08/07/2007 alle 09.14 -0400, James Tremblay ha scritto: > > > > > Gentleman, > > > I would like to point out that the teXlive\Tex\LaTex debate seems to be > > > concerned with a relatively small group(in a world domination approach > > > of distribution, which openSUSE needs) of university\scientific users. > > > > I really think it's important to keep existing users before thinking to > > the world domination, which is, however, far if it will ever happen. > > > > So you would rather hinder spreading openSUSE than to separate packages > onto alternative sources? [You wrote to me off-list probably by mistake, so I leave the full quotations.] Don't get me wrong. I would like openSUSE to be more adopted. But we can do that without hitting the existing users, especially if they're key-users like the university ones. > > Excluding packages like LaTeX from media means excluding from the user > > base an important group of users: students, teachers, university labs. > > They won't accept to install LaTeX on each machine separately. You've to > > keep in mind that in many universities PC's are directly maintained by > > users and not by admins. > > These users don't already install MSOffice from a separate media when > they need it? Separating the OS installation media from the products is > a well established format. Ubuntu, is catching on quite well and they > use installation repositories for all but the OS. Having to install stuff from separate media is one of the biggest complaints of users, and one of the most boring activities Windows users have to do. Ubuntu is including repository directly in the distribution and it's shipping CD's to those without a fast connection. Plus, Ubuntu targets home users mainly, and, for what I know, it's not well established into research centres where Red Hat based distributions are well established (think to CentOS, Scientific Linux, ...). > > Plus, universities and research centres are where students (future > > users) get in contact with Linux. Do you think they will choose a > > distribution which requires additional media to use LaTeX (many teachers > > and scientific papers requires it) or a distribution which allows to > > install it comfortably at the installation time? > > If they are university level users than they are smart enough to > decipher the location of an additional product media when downloading > openSUSE and choose to download the LaTex product media as well, or do > you assume they are to lazy to download an extra disk? In which case how > do they get the non-oss media? You still don't get the point. There won't be any additional LaTeX media. The proposal is to leave LaTeX only on the FTP repository. The non-OSS software is on the DVD. You should know that. > It's a simple economics problem, how do you get the extra software to > the people that want it without it costing you extra money every time > someone who doesn't want it downloads. You provide multiple media and > installation sources in a well defined library. Just because it's free > software doesn't mean openSUSE should pay all the bills of your getting > it! This is the Windows way of thinking. And I'm not asking to OpenSUSE to pay any additional bill. I'm saying they should include it on the usual DVD, maybe removing really unnecessary applications like games, duplicates and such. Someone pointed out free-civ is installed by default, I don't consider it a key application. > > > This program group seems to take enough space to be on it's own CD\DVD. > > > As openSUSE moves towards the idea that the base install should meet the > > > needs of a larger group, i.e Home Users, some of the current groups are > > > going to have to accept that there favorite program will need to be on > > > an "Add-On" product CD\DVD. > > > > We are not talking of creating an additional DVD or CD. We are talking > > about leaving LaTeX only on FTP. > > > > see above remark containing Ubuntu reference. Yes. I don't want OpenSUSE to be as Ubuntu. If so, I'd use it and stop using OpenSUSE, don't you think? > > > In terms of > > > sharing them, this will increase the ease in which you distribute the > > > programs to your students \ co-workers by alleviating the requirement > > > that you have to distribute and entire distro to your students \ > > > co-workers. Your schools \ departments could simply start saying > > > openSUSE X.x or SLED X.x are necessary to take part in course X \ work > > > in department X, much like they do now for other topics, and you then > > > hand out the Tex\TeXlive DVD. > > > > Right. I see the freedom in forcing someone to use OpenSUSE or SLED > > because someone else decided. The original idea was to use Linux (what > > distribution I like) and I will find the software I need because it > > works on all distributions. It's one of the principles which brought > > Linux to be what it is today. > > Now your just pissing in the wind! Schools\Universities force > homogenization on students all the time. Some Schools even force you to > buy your laptop from a list of accepted versions or even from the school > bookstore. Homogenisation is sometime necessary, if you work with others. But probably you live in a quite illiberal place, because I don't know of universities which force student to buy notebooks from a list. They usually have some requirement about software, usually related to security, which is hard to define strict. > You say it yourself "and I will find the software I need > because it works on all distributions", let them find it on > software.opensuse.org nicely package specifically for the version they > are on and easily downloaded\mirrored to the schools local > repository...and they all have one! I said in the distribution, not somewhere in an unknown repository. > > > We as community members are responsible to the distribution and it's > > > well being,(that old "the good of many" thing) and in order for openSUSE > > > to move forward it must make life easier for a much bigger group, as the > > > 1-cd install idea does. > > > > Right. Let the home users use the 1 CD install. And put what UNIX and > > Linux users want and expect to be part of the distribution on the DVD. > > No one needs to download a 4 gig DVD just for a few programs and its > download should eventually be discontinued (Bandwidth costs openSUSE > too!)and those buying the retail version should get 3 disks; > 1: OS base install (CD-1 of choice) > 2: additional products (everything on the current OSS DVD minus the OS) > 3: non-oss Discontinue the DVD means again loosing users. It's probably the preferred media of installation and the fastest, more reliable one. Plus it's the one suggested by Novell developers to do reliable version upgrades. Another thing you should know. > if a particular group wants something like the "Tex" it can be > constructed into an "Add-on" ISO very easily, maybe even with an on-line > tool to do so, since there is already a YaST module under construction > for this. It could even start a new business line for openSUSE like > those adverts you see for buying copies of Linux distro's, only openSUSE > could also offer any software in the build-service and any arch packed > onto an ISO and mailed for $X.00 You think too much to business ;-) This adds complexity to the already complex openSUSE. This is another very frequent complaint we hear about openSUSE. It's not the case to make things worse. > > To win, Linux has to be accessible to everyone (another basic > > principle), also those without a fast connection, and they're a lot, for > > various reasons. That's why it's important to have at least one > > "complete" set of media. > > In that case, a library of downloadable\shipable sub-product RPM's\ISO's > makes even more sense, i.e. I can afford an hour of downloads this month > and I want the new openSUSE and the scientific tools group, I get > CD1-gnome in 15 minutes and the scientific tools in another 20, Now I > have 25 minutes to get a new game or two ;) vs I got the core dvd in 70 > minutes hope I can scrape up the extra cash somehow. > I shouldn't take from openSUSE or my co-workers\family any unnecessary > bandwidth. Considering the download times you reported, you're assuming your zone is reached by a fast connection. That's not always the case. You should also consider less rich countries, where Linux has a huge potential user base and where Linux is spreading probably more rapidly than in our world. To conclude, using aka_druid's words, "removing tex utils from the dvd will annoy academic users, and that's bad, period". :-) With kind regards, A. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
by James Tremblay 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 14:27 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 18:30 +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > > Il giorno dom, 08/07/2007 alle 09.14 -0400, James Tremblay ha scritto: > > > > > Gentleman, > > > I would like to point out that the teXlive\Tex\LaTex debate seems to be > > > concerned with a relatively small group(in a world domination approach > > > of distribution, which openSUSE needs) of university\scientific users. > > > > I really think it's important to keep existing users before thinking to > > the world domination, which is, however, far if it will ever happen. > > > > So you would rather hinder spreading openSUSE than to separate packages > onto alternative sources? > > > Excluding packages like LaTeX from media means excluding from the user > > base an important group of users: students, teachers, university labs. > > They won't accept to install LaTeX on each machine separately. You've to > > keep in mind that in many universities PC's are directly maintained by > > users and not by admins. > > These users don't already install MSOffice from a separate media when > they need it? Separating the OS installation media from the products is > a well established format. Ubuntu, is catching on quite well and they > use installation repositories for all but the OS. > > > > > Plus, universities and research centres are where students (future > > users) get in contact with Linux. Do you think they will choose a > > distribution which requires additional media to use LaTeX (many teachers > > and scientific papers requires it) or a distribution which allows to > > install it comfortably at the installation time? > > If they are university level users than they are smart enough to > decipher the location of an additional product media when downloading > openSUSE and choose to download the LaTex product media as well, or do > you assume they are to lazy to download an extra disk? In which case how > do they get the non-oss media? > It's a simple economics problem, how do you get the extra software to > the people that want it without it costing you extra money every time > someone who doesn't want it downloads. You provide multiple media and > installation sources in a well defined library. Just because it's free > software doesn't mean openSUSE should pay all the bills of your getting > it! > > > > > > > This program group seems to take enough space to be on it's own CD\DVD. > > > As openSUSE moves towards the idea that the base install should meet the > > > needs of a larger group, i.e Home Users, some of the current groups are > > > going to have to accept that there favorite program will need to be on > > > an "Add-On" product CD\DVD. > > > > We are not talking of creating an additional DVD or CD. We are talking > > about leaving LaTeX only on FTP. > > > > see above remark containing Ubuntu reference. > > > > > In terms of > > > sharing them, this will increase the ease in which you distribute the > > > programs to your students \ co-workers by alleviating the requirement > > > that you have to distribute and entire distro to your students \ > > > co-workers. Your schools \ departments could simply start saying > > > openSUSE X.x or SLED X.x are necessary to take part in course X \ work > > > in department X, much like they do now for other topics, and you then > > > hand out the Tex\TeXlive DVD. > > > > Right. I see the freedom in forcing someone to use OpenSUSE or SLED > > because someone else decided. The original idea was to use Linux (what > > distribution I like) and I will find the software I need because it > > works on all distributions. It's one of the principles which brought > > Linux to be what it is today. > > Now your just pissing in the wind! Schools\Universities force > homogenization on students all the time. Some Schools even force you to > buy your laptop from a list of accepted versions or even from the school > bookstore. You say it yourself "and I will find the software I need > because it works on all distributions", let them find it on > software.opensuse.org nicely package specifically for the version they > are on and easily downloaded\mirrored to the schools local > repository...and they all have one! > > > > We as community members are responsible to the distribution and it's > > > well being,(that old "the good of many" thing) and in order for openSUSE > > > to move forward it must make life easier for a much bigger group, as the > > > 1-cd install idea does. > > > > Right. Let the home users use the 1 CD install. And put what UNIX and > > Linux users want and expect to be part of the distribution on the DVD. > > No one needs to download a 4 gig DVD just for a few programs and its > download should eventually be discontinued (Bandwidth costs openSUSE > too!)and those buying the retail version should get 3 disks; > 1: OS base install (CD-1 of choice) > 2: additional products (everything on the current OSS DVD minus the OS) > 3: non-oss > > if a particular group wants something like the "Tex" it can be > constructed into an "Add-on" ISO very easily, maybe even with an on-line > tool to do so, since there is already a YaST module under construction > for this. It could even start a new business line for openSUSE like > those adverts you see for buying copies of Linux distro's, only openSUSE > could also offer any software in the build-service and any arch packed > onto an ISO and mailed for $X.00 > > > > > To win, Linux has to be accessible to everyone (another basic > > principle), also those without a fast connection, and they're a lot, for > > various reasons. That's why it's important to have at least one > > "complete" set of media. > > In that case, a library of downloadable\shipable sub-product RPM's\ISO's > makes even more sense, i.e. I can afford an hour of downloads this month > and I want the new openSUSE and the scientific tools group, I get > CD1-gnome in 15 minutes and the scientific tools in another 20, Now I > have 25 minutes to get a new game or two ;) vs I got the core dvd in 70 > minutes hope I can scrape up the extra cash somehow. > I shouldn't take from openSUSE or my co-workers\family any unnecessary > bandwidth. > > > > > With kind regards, > > A. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] personal checkbook apps.
by Donn Washburn 08 Jul '07

08 Jul '07

Hey Group; I have over the the years used "Checkbook Tracker" which seems to not be supported anymore. I did switch to "Kmymoney" which seems to work. There is version 8.5 (as I remember) and 9.0. It is a concern as to the development advances. By that I mean it requires several programs like koffice's libkdchart whic may get dropped in KDE 4. I would hope to export all of the files to a cvs or common data format. At that point I would like to move to a more/less KDE dependent checkbook program. Maybe something that works on postgres, mysql or sqlite. Anyone currently using a program or have recommendation. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] MNG
by Donn Washburn 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

When I close KDE (runlevel 3 and startx) I get the following MNG error. I truly get pages of this error. Anyone with a solution or clue? -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 MNG error 11: Function is invalid at this point; chunk vpAg; subcode 0:0

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 5 and kmymoney
by Donn Washburn 06 Jul '07

06 Jul '07

Hey Group; I need to find a source or rpm that will work with Alpha 5 KDE 3.5.7 I need "libkdchart.so.#" for Kmymoney. Anyone seen a site with this KDE file? -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dist Meeting 2007-07-05
by Andreas Jaeger 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Sorry for the late email, we plan to discuss later today the following topics in our distribution meeting: * FreeNx: use of /usr/NX FreeNX and NX use /usr/NX and this is the upstream default for NX packages by Nomachine. But /usr/NX which is not allowed by the FHS. Reworking the package is a major problem. What should be done? * Handling of dropped packages: Most update problems Thorsten run into in the last time happend, because of: We dropped packages, but nobody make sure that this package and _all_ subpackages and _all_ xxbit (meaning 32bit/64bit) packages will be removed from the installed system ("successor"). On openSUSE, this happend during Systemupdate with the YaST2 option "remove no longer available packages". But with different Add-On Products, channels and other products from Novell, this is no option for the Enterprise products, and it becomes more and more a problem for openSUSE, too. So, if a package is dropped in autobuild, we need to make sure that: - All subpackages and xxbit packages are dropped somehow by other RPMs, too. Or this package has only limited dependencies, which will NEVER change in the feature. For example it has only dependencys to libc. Dependencies for openssl for example are already bad again, because that interface will change and customer will run in update problems. - We have a successor for all main and subpackages. The same is true for package renames, package splits, and so on. With the current renameing inflation because of the library naming policy, a lot of people forget to handle all subpackages correct, and we have left overs like -devel or -xxbit packages, which breaks the solver. * Improve debuginfo packages To get a complete stack trace, we need several debuginfo packages. The simple idea would be to copy dependencies from the main package to the debuginfo package. But this would give too many dependencies since it would lead to include always the gcc-debuginfo package (currently 300 MB). Another idea is to reduce the size of debuginfo packages and mark them only for backtrace - with removing the source code. Any comments, ideas, suggestions? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Check RPM packages required by a pattern.
by Samuel Partida 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hello everybody. I would like to make a minimal base system pattern for openSUSE, but as I try to leave the packages marked as required by the base system pattern and those listed on EXTRA_PROV, the installer always tell me that can't resolve all dependencies. Does anyone knows if there is an easy way to know all the required packages for a pattern? I wonder if there is a way to use ZyPP from command line over a pattern so it resolves all dependencies and get the full packages list. What I've done is to install a minimal openSUSE 10.2 on a VMWare machine and then get all the rpm installed. It works, but there should a better way I think. Thanks. -- Samuel Partida Amores ----------------------------------- samuel.partida(a)gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How to name that thing? Repository/installation source/Catalog...
by Andreas Jaeger 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

The discussions on the various mailing lists on how to name "that thing" have culminated in a face to face discussion in Prague yesterday where the systems management stakeholder took the input from the community and the usages in current openSUSE and Novell products in consideration. The goal was to have one technical term that we can use use in a consistent way in future new openSUSE and SUSE Linux Enterprise release - in software, documents, wiki etc. The decision was to use "repository". Other names considered where "installation source" and "catalog". So, yes we now have a management decision ;-) to name it "repository". I'm asking now the developers and documentation guys to change their texts and use it in new texts. On the other hand I ask everybody to give them some time and not file bug reports against documentation and software that uses the old names in openSUSE 10.3. Let's make it perfect for the release after - unless the teams can easily do this and tell us "file bugs" ;-) Regards, Andreas P.S. Reply-To to opensuse-doc(a)opensuse.org is set for any discussions. -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?
by Rafał Miłecki 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 4 and 5 MNG error 11
by Donn Washburn 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hey Group; When exiting the X server and Window Manager KDE in both Alpha 4 and 5 I am seeing pages and pages of "MNG error 11 function is invalid at this point". This has been proven to be a KDE problem on a very fresh Alpha 5 install from a DVD and on the previous Alpha 4 install. By the way Alpha 5 seems very nice during the install and first boot. What is MNG? - MNG (Multiple-image Network Graphics) Format It seems to be involved with png PNG's site calls it "covering PNG's animated and lossy cousins" -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Missing dependencies for eclipse-3.3RC3-5 and associated packages
by Grant Croker 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

When installing eclipse via zypper I get: Problem: eclipse-3.3RC3-5.noarch[openSUSE FACTORY 10.3] cannot be installed due to missing dependencies There are no installable providers of eclipse-archdep-gtk2 for eclipse-3.3RC3-5.noarch[openSUSE FACTORY 10.3] also eclipse-ui appears to be missing. Were we waiting on the release of 3.3, which happened last week? regards grant -- Grant Croker, grantc(a)php.net Software Engineer, Ingres - http://ingres.com tel: +44 (0)1753 559505 UK / +34 676 518209 España -- "Did you check the list?" YES. TWICE. ARE YOU SURE THAT'S ENOUGH? -- He's gonna find out... (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Announcing Hack Week
by Nat Friedman 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Hi everyone, At Novell we've been planning a special internal event that will run this week, from June 25th to 29th. We're calling it Hack Week. During Hack Week, our entire Linux engineering team -- hundreds of people -- will be working on whatever Linux or open source projects interest them. Everyone will work alone or in teams, on existing open source projects or new ideas of their own. No one will tell them what or what not to do -- it's a free week for free hacking, driven by individual passion. To make it easier for our hackers to find and publicize their projects, we've created an Idea Pool web site where we've all spent the last couple of weeks sharing ideas and finding collaborators. This web site is open to the public here: http://idea.opensuse.org/ Although this is a Novell event, we're running it with full transparency. You'll be able to follow our progress and projects on the Idea Pool web site, either with the blog on the front page where we'll post videos from our seven main engineering sites[1], or by watching individual project pages. We invite you to participate where you can. If you'd like to help with a project, feel free to add a comment to the discussion section of the page and volunteer your support. We hope that you'll at least enjoy watching Hack Week progress. If it is successful, we hope to run it again sometime soon, with even more participation from the community. If you're interested in following along, you might check the following sites first: - Hack Week Overview: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/hackweek - Tags: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/blog/welcome-to-the-idea-pool - Idea Pool code of conduct: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/etiquette - Flickr pool: http://www.flickr.com/groups/hackweek/pool/ During the week, we'll use the channel #opensuse-hackweek on irc.freenode.net for general discussion (project-specific discussion will find its own venue). Hope to see you there! Happy hacking, Nat [1] Beijing, Bangalore, Prague, Nuernberg, Boston, Provo, Portland are the main sites --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Ports:DebianBased
by Stephan Kulow 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Am Mittwoch 04 Juli 2007 schrieb Richard Creighton: > I enjoyed 'meeting' some of you guys on your A/V website last week. I > have never had any experience with Debian other than packaged stuff like > Knoppix preferring RedHad (originally) and since 9.3, SUSE. Therefore, > I have no clue what is available out there for Debian. Would you post > a link (or two) toward good libraries that would contain those 10,000 > packages you would like help with in your consideration. Additionally, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ has them all. > what kind of products are you looking forward to, eg, how would you > prioritize your conversion efforts? > Our original aim were games, utils and programming languages we do not package and give a resource for last resort. Our packages are mass-autoconverted and not tested at all. (beside those in Ports:DebianBased). Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Ports:DebianBased
by Stephan Kulow 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Dear Community, :) Perhaps you have noticed or you haven't, but last week Novell R&D had an event called hackweek, where we were free to sidestep our normal jobs and work on something we always wanted to try without having an urgent need to as Novell. So being experienced with both Debian's and SUSE's build tools, Richard Günther and me decided just to try compiling Debian sources using SUSE's tools and see what problems we face. It turned out, most problems we were facing could be easily solved or worked around (e.g. debian has a completely different concept of lib64, so we had to package debian's amd64 libs under */lib - so it's impossible to have a -32libs version of ithem. But that doesn't really matter for the kind of packages we're aiming for). Now the problem is a problem of success: I have not really an idea what to do with the huge pool of debian packages (substract those that provide files we already have - those are failing and won't be in that pool). The original idea was to only distribute packages that look worth it, but with > 10000 packages, picking those is a job hard enough and we could use help with it. The current list of selected packages is under http://software.opensuse.org/download/Ports:/DebianBased/ - if someone has an idea how to pick more or how to group them, I'm glad to hear it. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] install factory key files ?
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello, I can't install factory Alpha 5.. ? YaST2 tell me on my installations Path a unknown Error. Then File /var/tmp/TempDir.............../content.key doesn't contain public key data ? I do a replace of the key files but nothing helps ? Is this a known bug ? -- mit freundlichen Grüssen / best Regards Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] call trace on opensuse10.3alpha5
by Mohammed Omar 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Hi all, when I was executing some file system stress tests on openSUSE10.3alpha5 on power 5 architecture. tests: IOZone bonnie++ dbench fs_inod fs_maim fsstress fsx_linux postmark tiobench ------ I got a call trace in /var/log/messages.. un 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------ Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: Badness at fs/buffer.c:570 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: Call Trace: Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc774b0] [c00000000000f318] .show_stack+0x68/0x1b0 (unreliable) Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77550] [c000000000205f90] .report_bug+0x94/0xe8 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc775e0] [c000000000407f20] .program_check_exception+0x178/0x604 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77690] [c00000000000548c] program_check_common+0x10c/0x180 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: --- Exception: 700 at .drop_buffers+0xcc/0x14c Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: LR = .try_to_free_buffers+0x80/0xfc Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77980] [c000000000658a18] ioctl_start+0xbe8/0x5790 (unreliable) Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77a00] [c00000000011ced4] .try_to_free_buffers+0x80/0xfc Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77ab0] [c0000000000b9b5c] .try_to_release_page+0x7c/0x90 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77b30] [c0000000000c45a8] .shrink_zone+0xd64/0x1194 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77da0] [c0000000000c5440] .kswapd+0x394/0x4d4 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77f00] [c00000000008e248] .kthread+0x78/0xc4 Jun 27 20:42:55 linux-0gxvrp kernel: [c00000000fc77f90] [c000000000028970] .kernel_thread+0x4c/0x68 Jun 27 21:06:21 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 27 22:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 27 23:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 00:01:39 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ReiserFS: sdb3: warning: journal-1409: journal_mark_dirty returning because j_wcount was 0 Jun 28 00:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 01:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 01:52:06 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ReiserFS: sdb3: warning: journal-1409: journal_mark_dirty returning because j_wcount was 0 Jun 28 02:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 03:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 03:59:15 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ReiserFS: sdb3: warning: journal-1409: journal_mark_dirty returning because j_wcount was 0 Jun 28 04:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 05:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 05:20:32 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ReiserFS: sdb3: warning: journal-1409: journal_mark_dirty returning because j_wcount was 0 Jun 28 05:46:47 linux-0gxvrp kernel: ReiserFS: sdb3: warning: journal-1409: journal_mark_dirty returning because j_wcount was 0 Jun 28 06:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 07:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 08:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 09:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 10:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 11:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 12:06:22 linux-0gxvrp syslog-ng[2345]: STATS: dropped 0 Jun 28 12:15:02 linux-0gxvrp su: (to beagleindex) root on none uname output:: -------------------- Linux linux-0gxvrp 2.6.22-rc4-git3-2-ppc64 #1 SMP 2007/06/12 15:00:04 UTC ppc64 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux machine type: p520(power 5) Whether any bug in the kernel ? Regards:: -Omar --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] latest factory updates for x86_64 break yast sw_single
by Markus Koßmann 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Latest factory (update from june 29 ) comes with libzypp-3.1.1 but yast sw_single still depends on libzypp-3.0.2. If you ignore the dependency when updating, yast sw_single will stop to work until you make a link /usr/lib64/libzypp.so.302.2.2 -> libzypp.so.303.0.1 (Bug 288754) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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